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Old 01-27-2017, 08:06 PM  
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My as well get it started. Here's my "Matheny" lineup.....

Fowler CF
Diaz SS
Carpenter 1B
Piscotty RF
Grichuk LF
Molina C
Peralta 3B
Wong 2B
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My "Matheny" Starting rotation

Martinez
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Old 03-25-2017, 11:54 AM   #136
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When will MLB rule on Luis Robert's free agency request?
He hasn't been able to prove/establish residency yet.

By most accounts, MLB is waiting on him at this point. I think they'll get it done and I think he'll be moving heaven and earth to make it happen, but there are hurdles w/r/t proving residency and documentation, etc... required that appear to be tripping him up.

And I fully expect the Cardinals to come in 2nd. It's what they do.
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Old 03-25-2017, 02:17 PM   #137
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He hasn't been able to prove/establish residency yet.

By most accounts, MLB is waiting on him at this point. I think they'll get it done and I think he'll be moving heaven and earth to make it happen, but there are hurdles w/r/t proving residency and documentation, etc... required that appear to be tripping him up.

And I fully expect the Cardinals to come in 2nd. It's what they do.
I have 3 extra bedrooms he is welcome anytime!

If they come in second to the Padres l'll be pissed. If he is as good as everyone thinks it would give us some pieces to move at the deadline for pitching if needed.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:16 AM   #138
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I really can't stand Kolten Wong...

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...7814094da.html

A Garcia/Gyorko platoon would smoke Wong's production as an everyday player. And Wong, who has NEVER established himself as a consistently productive everyday player, believes his goddamn contract makes him entitled to the starting job.

What a spectacular asshole.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:31 AM   #139
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How are you Cardinals fans feeling as Spring Training gets close to wrapping up?

Confident?
Concerned?
Like what you see?
Unsure?

My Pirates are having a good spring training but I don't know more than half of the guys playing this spring.

Jung Ho Kang looks like "he no play baseball in US" this year. He is a drunken mess
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:37 AM   #140
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How are you Cardinals fans feeling as Spring Training gets close to wrapping up?

Confident?
Concerned?
Like what you see?
Unsure?

My Pirates are having a good spring training but I don't know more than half of the guys playing this spring.

Jung Ho Kang looks like "he no play baseball in US" this year. He is a drunken mess
I thought they were a .500 ball club before the spring. Nothing has changed my mind.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:38 AM   #141
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I thought they were a .500 ball club before the spring. Nothing has changed my mind.
Are you guys getting any younger? Your roster seems a little older than many other teams
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:40 AM   #142
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How are you Cardinals fans feeling as Spring Training gets close to wrapping up?

Confident?
Concerned?
Like what you see?
Unsure?

My Pirates are having a good spring training but I don't know more than half of the guys playing this spring.

Jung Ho Kang looks like "he no play baseball in US" this year. He is a drunken mess
Resigned and oddly ambivalent.

Our ceiling is a wild-card because the Cubs have blown us off the map. So with a wild-card game, you're left with a play in and the hopes that Mike Matheny doesn't somehow mangle the shit of out it (he will). That said, if he gets lucky and the Smash Brothers (Kolten Wong and Matt Adams) drive in 9 while Mike Leake pitches a shutout, we'll advance to a 5 game where we'll again have to ask Mike Matheny to stay out of the way (ideally, just stay home).

Teams might actually be creeped out enough by the zombified flesh of Adam Wainwrights charred corpse that we can steal one of his starts and hope that Carlos Martinez can steal a couple on his own. Then we'll get fisted by the Cubs. And the manager we should've hired.

There's no ceiling on this team. There aren't any true breakout candidates and the young talent is still years off (meanwhile Allen Cordoba will probably stick with the Padres - more nice work, Moe). The Cards will neither commit to a rebuild or take the chances necessary to build an actual contender. So we'll sit in the squishy middle for 5 years and Mozeliak will hope that someone hands him another 2009 kind of draft that he can piss away with his idiot manager and generally risk-averse roster manipulations.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:40 AM   #143
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I really can't stand Kolten Wong...

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...7814094da.html

A Garcia/Gyorko platoon would smoke Wong's production as an everyday player. And Wong, who has NEVER established himself as a consistently productive everyday player, believes his goddamn contract makes him entitled to the starting job.

What a spectacular asshole.
That guy is such a bitch. I can't believe Mo threw so much cash at such a below average hitter and average fielder.
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That guy is such a bitch. I can't believe Mo threw so much cash at such a below average hitter and average fielder.
Guaranteed more than $10 million in 3 seasons.

Can't wait. We'll have $32 million invested in Wong, Leake and Cecil in 2020.

And people say that DeWitt is just pocketing that cable money. Look at all that coin. No wonder a WAR costs $8 million on the open market these days - with guys like Mozeliak giving $30 million for...well nothing really....it helps inflate the numbers a bit.
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Guaranteed more than $10 million in 3 seasons.

Can't wait. We'll have $32 million invested in Wong, Leake and Cecil in 2020.

And people say that DeWitt is just pocketing that cable money. Look at all that coin. No wonder a WAR costs $8 million on the open market these days - with guys like Mozeliak giving $30 million for...well nothing really....it helps inflate the numbers a bit.
Jesus, Leake is an absolute abortion and Wong must have naked pics of Mo's German Shepard or some damn thing.
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How are you Cardinals fans feeling as Spring Training gets close to wrapping up?

Confident?
Concerned?
Like what you see?
Unsure?

My Pirates are having a good spring training but I don't know more than half of the guys playing this spring.

Jung Ho Kang looks like "he no play baseball in US" this year. He is a drunken mess
I've definitely felt better...

Pretty much in the same boat as raybec...
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So Lance Lynn could pitch in Colorado, couldn't he?

Guy doesn't throw anything but bowling ball sinkers. It would seem that if anybody's arsenal works in Colorado, it's his.

So with Arenado, LeMahieu and Story, the Rox are loaded on the infield. And they will be for another 3+ years at least because all those guys are still quite young.

So if they're in contention at mid-season, would Oh and Lynn be enough to get them to listen on Brendan Rodgers? Adams included as a LH complement to Desmond (they've shown interest in Adams in the past and if Cargo walks, Desmond can go back to the OF next season).

The Cards need to look to the future and Lynn/Oh aren't part of that.
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Jesus, Leake is an absolute abortion and Wong must have naked pics of Mo's German Shepard or some damn thing.
Leake has been absolutely lights out this spring. Needs to translate but Jesus, 1 year is all the guy gets?

Wong needs to go.
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Leake has been absolutely lights out this spring. Needs to translate but Jesus, 1 year is all the guy gets?
Leake has been around in MLB for a long time and has only managed a couple decent seasons and owns a below average career ERA+.

He's Jason Hammel, only making double his AAV with 3 extra years attached.
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