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Old 01-03-2017, 12:25 AM  
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QB Impressions

First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.
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Old 04-18-2017, 01:01 AM   #391
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Some pretty interesting QB discussion between DJ, Bucky, and Lance Zierlien at the 16:35 to 27 minute mark.

http://www.nfl.com/podcasts?id=f8dd2...f5bd99ac54d804
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:44 PM   #392
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Just started watching Gruden's camps. After seeing Watson, I want no part of this guy.

He can't talk! And he's a 'communications' major. He can't call plays in the huddle. And he threw 32 picks the last 2 years. In college. That transfers to about 20/yr in the pros.

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Old 04-18-2017, 03:48 PM   #393
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Just started watching Gruden's camps. After seeing Watson, I want no part of this guy.

He can't talk! And he's a 'communications' major. He can't call plays in the huddle. And he threw 32 picks the last 2 years. In college. That transfers to about 20/yr in the pros.

Pass.
Key figure for the 'arm strength isn't important' crowd:

The difference between Watson's velocity and Mahomes velocity on a 20 yard throw (or about a 15 yard out by the time you factor in the lateral range) is 4 feet. When Mahomes throws that ball, by the time it gets to his WR, Watson's pass is still 4 ft behind it.

In temporal terms, it takes Mahomes about .15 seconds less time to get from hand to target than Watson. If that's a WR, a .15 second 40 difference gets him killed but what good is that extra speed if the QB gives it all back?

That 4 ft makes all the difference between a first down and a pick 6. Think of how many windows close just as the DB gets there and how many times that ball gets batted/taken away if the ball is 4 feet further back at that same point in time.

Arm issues are leading to some of these picks for Watson. There's a very good argument to make that he simply doesn't have NFL arm strength.
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Old 04-18-2017, 04:09 PM   #394
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Key figure for the 'arm strength isn't important' crowd:

The difference between Watson's velocity and Mahomes velocity on a 20 yard throw (or about a 15 yard out by the time you factor in the lateral range) is 4 feet. When Mahomes throws that ball, by the time it gets to his WR, Watson's pass is still 4 ft behind it.

In temporal terms, it takes Mahomes about .15 seconds less time to get from hand to target than Watson. If that's a WR, a .15 second 40 difference gets him killed but what good is that extra speed if the QB gives it all back?

That 4 ft makes all the difference between a first down and a pick 6. Think of how many windows close just as the DB gets there and how many times that ball gets batted/taken away if the ball is 4 feet further back at that same point in time.

Arm issues are leading to some of these picks for Watson. There's a very good argument to make that he simply doesn't have NFL arm strength.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:16 AM   #395
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:43 AM   #396
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From DJ's "Ask 5"...


Ask 5: Who'll be first QB selected in 2017 NFL Draft?
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...487-sf71542487
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Old 04-19-2017, 12:23 PM   #397
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Ask 5: Who'll be first QB selected in 2017 NFL Draft?
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...487-sf71542487
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"The next" Trevor Siemien.

Media making comparisons to a one-year starter. Fan****ingtastic.

I'm sure people are salivating over the next Siemien.
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The next Trevor Siemien is such an awesome endorsement.

At least you could pronounce his last name "Fuggit."
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