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Old 12-10-2016, 07:39 PM  
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CIA says Russia interfered in elections to help elect Trump

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The CIA has concluded that Russia intervened in the 2016 election specifically to help Donald Trump win the presidency, a U.S. official has confirmed to NPR.

"Before, there was confidence about the fact that Russia interfered," the official says. "But there was low confidence on what the direction and intentionality of the interference was. Now they (the CIA) have come to the conclusion that Russia was trying to tip the election to Trump."
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On Friday evening, the Trump transition team fired back with a statement dismissing the report of the agency's conclusion.

"These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," the statement said. "The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history. It's now time to move on and 'Make America Great Again.' "

In fact, Trump's percentage of the electoral vote in the 2016 election ranks 46th among presidential election winners in U.S. history
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:02 PM   #46
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Those emails belong to the voters via FOIA. This is a non-issue.
Some, but not all. Hacking into our systems is an issue no matter what the purpose, but it's particularly troubling if it's a foreign power hacking our systems in order to manipulate and/or undermine our voting system.

I would think that anyone who wants voter ID in order to insure the integrity of our vote would want to prevent foreign powers from meddling in them through disinformation campaigns or subversive hacking projects.
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:04 PM   #47
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:10 PM   #48
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Yup. They've lost control. They are in their last throes before they lose power for good.
I think you're ignoring the fact that elections are typically cyclical in nature. This year the pendulum swung to the right. History suggests that it won't remain there forever. 8 years ago people were telling us that the Republican party is doomed because of demographic changes that would render it obsolete.

How'd that work out?
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:12 PM   #49
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Come on. It's not at all hard to believe enough votes were swayed by the drumbeat of the wikileaks releases to change the election. This is a serious allegation if the intel community really has solid information, even if the guy you wanted to win was the beneficiary.

I'm not saying the election results should be overturned, but Donald Trump should make it a high priority to address this if the intel analysis is credible.
Patteeu, a no exaggeration 90% of our mainstream media pounded peoples heads full of the Trump is Hitler narrative every chance they got... is there really any argument about this?

So that being the truth that we all know, what was the real problem in these secrets coming out to equalize things?

NO... Chinese/Russian hacking of ANY of our most prized secrets is never acceptable (the F35 was halfway stolen by China), but in this case I'm damn glad our people were let in on the scumbaggery of the Clinton machine

Whats worse

The hacking?

Or Hillarys truth?

Both are insidious, but I will go to my grave thanking God the people were informed about what she is

Our nation deserves to know, we deserve to make informed decisions, pat
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:14 PM   #50
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Patteeu, a no exaggeration 90% of our mainstream media pounded peoples heads full of the Trump is Hitler narrative every chance they got... is there really any argument about this?

So that being the truth that we all know, what was the real problem in these secrets coming out to equalize things?

NO... Chinese/Russian hacking of ANY of our most prized secrets is never acceptable (the F35 was halfway stolen by China), but in this case I'm damn glad our people were let in on the scumbaggery of the Clinton machine

Whats worse

The hacking?

Or Hillarys truth?

Both are insidious, but I will go to my grave thanking God the people were informed about what she is

Our nation deserves to know, we deserve to make informed decisions, pat
That's not a reason to turn a blind eye to it.
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:14 PM   #51
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Too bad Russia didn't release the emails that showed Hillary and the dems to be honorable and upstanding.
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:16 PM   #52
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"They want our shit."

You mean the shit that the Progressives want us to be, which is the shit that failed the USSR? (And every other place it was attempted.)

ok you tired old shit. tell me your smartness. when did you you think conservatives had to make the whole reason for making laws because as you ****s decided obama was a progressive? most of the time he wasnt american. some other muslim bullshit.

well thank you very much. you got played be a country that wants america to be weak.

****in republicans are defending russia in american elections.


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Old 12-10-2016, 11:28 PM   #53
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ok you tired old shit. tell me your smartness. when did you you think conservatives had to make the whole reason for making laws because as you ****s decided obama was a progressive? most of the time he wasnt american. some other muslim bullshit.

well thank you very much. you got played be a country that wants america to be weak.

****in republicans are defending russia in american elections.


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He despises half this nation, and his chicken came well before the backlash egg... I should know, he had my glowing support in 08... he ****ing sucks, he let SO many of us down

How do I know that?

Just take a look at the counties Obammy won and how they flipped to Trump

ITS RACISM!

ITS WHITELASH!

Nope... we just got tired of that shitheel and his minions domestic scapegoating, and his pussy foreign policy
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:31 PM   #54
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That's not a reason to turn a blind eye to it.
I guess you could call the emails leaked an inconvenient truth, huh?
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:34 PM   #55
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What's scary about this is there are people who genuinely think this would be okay because it helped them defeat their political enemies. Millions of people. That's terrifying. There's nothing okay about this. Even 10 years ago, I think this is the type of thing both parties would've come together on to figure out what's up. And so it goes.
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:37 PM   #56
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What's scary about this is there are people who genuinely think this would be okay because it helped them defeat their political enemies. Millions of people. That's terrifying. There's nothing okay about this. And so it goes.
I'm just curious about something:

You realize that the U.S. is guilty of this same sort of stuff, right?
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:38 PM   #57
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I'm just curious about something:

You realize that the U.S. is guilty of this same sort of stuff, right?
Uh yes, and where did I defend that? I didn't.

You're awfully good at putting words in other people's mouths. You guys routinely attack me with arguments I've never made. Good luck with that.
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:39 PM   #58
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Uh yes, and where did I defend that? I didn't.

You're awfully good at putting words in other people's mouths.
I didn't put any words into your mouth. I asked you a simple question about something that you said was terrifying.
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:40 PM   #59
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I didn't put any words into your mouth. I asked you a simple question.
Thanks for your input, Captain America.
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:41 PM   #60
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Some, but not all. Hacking into our systems is an issue no matter what the purpose, but it's particularly troubling if it's a foreign power hacking our systems in order to manipulate and/or undermine our voting system.

I would think that anyone who wants voter ID in order to insure the integrity of our vote would want to prevent foreign powers from meddling in them through disinformation campaigns or subversive hacking projects.
Extremely troubling and definitely needs to be looked into more. President-elect needs to shut the **** up as well.
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