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Old 01-31-2015, 07:16 AM  
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It's official: Bruce Jenner is a chick


His changing look has been a much-buzzed-about topic for months, and now PEOPLE has confirmed that Bruce Jenner has been quietly making a very personal change. The former Olympian will soon be living life as female.

"Bruce is transitioning to a woman," says a source close to the family. "He is finally happy and his family is accepting of what he's doing. He's in such a great space. That's why it's the perfect time to do something like this."

And according to a different Jenner insider, the 65-year-old reality star is filming his momentous journey, to be shared with viewers on a docu-series this year. "It will air when he is ready to be open about his transition," the source tells PEOPLE. "But he's acting more and more confident and seems very happy."

Jenner's much-documented physical appearance (he's been photographed with longer hair, manicured nails and wearing makeup) has led to much speculation, but according to the insider, Jenner's decision to transition slowly was made in part so that his family would have time to adapt to the change.

"He's being very smart about and also respectful about his transition," the insider says. "Instead of completely shocking everyone, his changes have been subtle, and his family has had the chance to slowly get used to his new looks and life."

And his family, including children Cassandra, 34, Burt, 36 (with ex wife Chrystie Crownover ) and sons Brandon, 33 and Brody, 31 (with ex wife Linda Thompson), as well as daughters Kendall, 19 and Kylie, 17 (with Kris Jenner) are adjusting to the new Bruce. "The [kids'] concern seems to be Bruce's happiness, and he acts very pleased with his new life," says the insider.

Admits the family source: "It is an intense thing. Of course not everyone is 100 percent on board. Different people have different reactions. But everybody loves him."

When asked about Jenner on ET, his stepdaughter Kim Kardashian simply said, "I think everyone goes through things in life, and I think that story and what Bruce is going through, I think he'll share whenever the time is right." And when reached by PEOPLE, son Burt would only say his father is "doing awesome."

"The family is really giving this space and time to Bruce. This is his story and they want him to tell the world the way he wants," the source close to the family says. "They really want to empower him to tell his story so that hopefully he can help other people too. That's the goal."

Now it appears that Jenner, finally happy in his own skin, will soon be ready to live life out in the open. "He has come out to those closest to him," says the family source. "He's so happy and excited. He gets to lay down a huge bag of bricks. He's been through a dark period and is coming out on the other side."

Numerous requests for comment from Jenner and his representatives were met with no reply.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:28 AM   #136
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Her?

He likely still has his junk.

You can't change your chromosomes. Technically, he'll always be 'male'.
Gender is a constructed social identity; sex is a biological characteristic.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:29 AM   #137
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LoL. He looks ****ing hideous. What's the point of getting surgery to look like a woman, if you're going to end up looking like a creature of the night? He chose to look like an ugly woman instead of a decent looking guy... It was his life long desire to look like a hideous woman.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:31 AM   #138
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Being in the public eye and coming out would be terrifying. Is there physical violence or threat of death? Likely not. Doesn't make it any less terrifying, and making the decision to live your own life when genetics ****ed up and turned your innie into an outie is courageous. Living your life different than you feel must be awful, and I can't imagine it.
If anything, his transexualism has granted him a reprieve from the decade or so of being the butt of jokes for his runaway plastic surgery addiction.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:32 AM   #139
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The way gender identity works has nothing to do with the parts you have. To Bruce, she's a woman. I'll respect her wishes. I don't care that Bruce has a penis.
I don't care, either. My point is, his genetic make up is male. They are the chromosomes he was given at conception.

So, regardless of what sexual reassignment surgery he may have, he'll always be male, genetically.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:34 AM   #140
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I don't care, either. My point is, his genetic make up is male. They are the chromosomes he was given at conception.

So, regardless of what sexual reassignment surgery he may have, he'll always be male, genetically.
Don't care about the genetics, I'm not arguing that biologically he's a male. But in the social construct of Bruce identifying as a female, I will respect her wishes and refer to her as such.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:34 AM   #141
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So, if he's always felt he was 'female', does this mean he defrauded the Olympics?

I know you're being tongue in cheek, but;

1) He was biologically still male, regardless of emotional or mental identification.

2) It isn't fraud for a women to compete athletically with men. There is no advantage, outside of maybe some events in gymnastics I guess.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:35 AM   #142
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LoL. He looks ****ing hideous. What's the point of getting surgery to look like a woman, if you're going to end up looking like a creature of the night? He chose to look like an ugly woman instead of a decent looking guy... It was his life long desire to look like a hideous woman.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:41 AM   #143
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If he's happy more power to him....What I don't get is he/she said in the interview that he/she is not gay and is and will always be attracted to women.. He/she also said that a sex change was a possibility. So....how can a woman have a fulfilling relationship with a he / she with no junk and looks like you're mom???
You don't have to say he/she. He still has a penis, so he's a man. Sure, maybe it's a mutilated, inside-out penis. But it's still a penis. So he's still a he. We're talking about who he is physically and not who he is mentally/emotionally.

Hey, it's fine if you want to be who you feel inside. But we can't act like Mr. Jenner doesn't look hilarious, because it's considered improper.



This guy felt like he was a Lizard. So he did the necessary body modifications to look as much like a Lizard as he could. It doesn't mean he doesn't look hilarious/ridiculous. And it doesn't mean, he's no longer physically a man.

He wants to be a lizard/woman. And that's ****ing great! Be the best damn lizard/woman you can be. But don't expect me to not laugh out loud a little bit because of how ridiculous you look. And don't call me an asshole when I do.
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:32 AM   #144
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You don't have to say he/she. He still has a penis, so he's a man. Sure, maybe it's a mutilated, inside-out penis. But it's still a penis. So he's still a he. We're talking about who he is physically and not who he is mentally/emotionally.

Hey, it's fine if you want to be who you feel inside. But we can't act like Mr. Jenner doesn't look hilarious, because it's considered improper.



This guy felt like he was a Lizard. So he did the necessary body modifications to look as much like a Lizard as he could. It doesn't mean he doesn't look hilarious/ridiculous. And it doesn't mean, he's no longer physically a man.

He wants to be a lizard/woman. And that's ****ing great! Be the best damn lizard/woman you can be. But don't expect me to not laugh out loud a little bit because of how ridiculous you look. And don't call me an asshole when I do.

There another guy who thinks he a tiger or a lion and he did that body transformation.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:23 AM   #145
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:27 AM   #146
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Don't care about the genetics, I'm not arguing that biologically he's a male. But in the social construct of Bruce identifying as a female, I will respect her wishes and refer to her as such.

social construct? is that why he's taking extrogen? something his body can't and won't ever produce?

...you can call him a woman all you want, doesn't make it true.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:30 AM   #147
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social construct? is that why he's taking extrogen? something his body can't and won't ever produce?

...you can call him a woman all you want, doesn't make it true.
Masculine and feminine are social constructs, behaviors that we attribute as innate to biological sexes male and female.

For example: for most of your life, pink was considered a girly color. It had feminine connotations. But that belief has only existed since the 1940s-50s. Before then, pink was considered another hue of red, a masculine color, and blue, with its softer palette, was considered feminine.

Well, why do we associate pink with girls and blue with boys now? There's nothing innate about the colors, we have just attributed values of masculinity or femininity with them, and given that they have changed over time, they certainly are not static.
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:14 AM   #148
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:24 AM   #149
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:26 AM   #150
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social construct? is that why he's taking extrogen? something his body can't and won't ever produce?

...you can call him a woman all you want, doesn't make it true.
You can spend what's left of your life getting pissed off about Bruce Jenner's genetalia. Doesn't stop the country from moving ever further along the path of acceptance.
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