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Old 10-06-2013, 11:01 PM  
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As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

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Old 04-20-2017, 07:13 AM   #1186
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I watched it again too, and I think it was perfect character study and highlighted the juxtaposition between Mike and Jimmy.

Mike, Gus and Kim are all type A and meticulous in everything they do. They do not take shortcuts. They study the task in front of them from behind the scenes and only act when it is the next calculated move, rarely any decision is made out of impulse.

Jimmy, on the other hand, thrives only when he's the center of attention. Slippin' Jimmy was built off of him creating a scene and being the star of the show. He takes control of situations not from deliberate study of others, but from utilizing his showsmanship to gain instant gratification from his actions. It's this type of corner cutting that his brother loathes, and Chuck has never fully understood how Jimmy's showy personality makes him so likable in contrast with himself.

Jimmy was way out of his element in Los Pollos. He was tasked to be a fly on the wall, invisible, a task of which he was so badly overmatched that he couldn't even exit the restaurant without making a scene.
Good point, too.

Jimmy is used to being in control and having all the info. In Los Pollos he didn't have the first clue what was going on, and his curiosity for info made him stick out.


Speaking of Gus, remember that he has a partner.....,,
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:40 AM   #1187
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Good point, too.

Jimmy is used to being in control and having all the info. In Los Pollos he didn't have the first clue what was going on, and his curiosity for info made him stick out.
I think this also underscores why Jimmy is dying a thousand deaths as Gene. He now has to be invisible in everything he does and has no control of his life outside of the de facto prison he lives in. It doesn't seem to be going well for him.
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:45 AM   #1188
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Anybody else laugh way too hard when Jimmy screwed up his paint job by ripping off the tape?
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:19 AM   #1189
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Anybody else laugh way too hard when Jimmy screwed up his paint job by ripping off the tape?
I didn't laugh at that point, because I didn't think it was intended to be funny. It was rage. I laughed that he was using his brother's method of taking the tape off to begin with.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:36 AM   #1190
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:48 AM   #1191
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I didn't laugh at that point, because I didn't think it was intended to be funny. It was rage. I laughed that he was using his brother's method of taking the tape off to begin with.
Yeah, I smiled when he was rolling the tape, too.


He listens to his brother, but always ends up taking the short cut. They are both to blame for their horrible relationship.
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:09 PM   #1192
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I enjoyed seeing Kim use the "Give me a dollar, I am now your lawyer and we have confidentiality". It's the same thing Saul said to Walt and Jesse when they wanted Badger not to talk to the DEA.
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:42 PM   #1193
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I enjoyed seeing Kim use the "Give me a dollar, I am now your lawyer and we have confidentiality". It's the same thing Saul said to Walt and Jesse when they wanted Badger not to talk to the DEA.
Ah! See, that's what cool about the show too.
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:01 PM   #1194
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I enjoyed seeing Kim use the "Give me a dollar, I am now your lawyer and we have confidentiality". It's the same thing Saul said to Walt and Jesse when they wanted Badger not to talk to the DEA.
Daaammmmnnnn.


Nice work raybec.

If I remember right, Walt didn't have a one, either.......
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:10 PM   #1195
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Daaammmmnnnn.


Nice work raybec.

If I remember right, Walt didn't have a one, either.......
Jesse only had a 5 and was hesitant to give it away
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:43 PM   #1196
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I didn't laugh at that point, because I didn't think it was intended to be funny. It was rage. I laughed that he was using his brother's method of taking the tape off to begin with.
I laughed at the rolling too
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That episode was amazing.
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It also works as a metaphor for the change he's ongoing right now. After years of trying to make his brother proud and doing his best to resist his "Saul" tendencies to stay on the straight and narrow, he's about to reach the ripped tape portion of his life. Sadly, he'll soon he'll be just as crooked as the lines that were left there.
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It also works as a metaphor for the change he's ongoing right now. After years of trying to make his brother proud and doing his best to resist his "Saul" tendencies to stay on the straight and narrow, he's about to reach the ripped tape portion of his life. Sadly, he'll soon he'll be just as crooked as the lines that were left there.


Speaking of the tape... I assume everyone noticed his mountains and sunset also looked like a W and an M (Wexler and McGill)?
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