Albert Wilson

[RunKC]

7 catches, 122 yards the last 2 games he started seeing real action.

Liked what he has shown so far. He's a decent blocker too. What are your thoughts? Nice number 4 WR (maybe the 3rd WR) for the future?

Would be really nice if he became a nice contributing WR for years so we at least got someone from the best WR class ever.
And he's a hell of a lot better than Jenkins, Avery and Hammond. **** those guys.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

SNR is.

No, it only looks like I am because you think a rookie free agent who wasn't even trusted with offensive snaps until a month ago and has a BIG WHOPPING 120 yards and no TDs in two games is better than Avery, who hasn't produced because he's been INJURED.

God, you're dumb.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

What are you basing this "reach" around?

That's incredibly subjective. Apparently he wasn't a reach according to Chiefs scouts. And guess what? They were right.

That's all that matters.

Whatever your stupid draft site said doesn't matter. An NFL ball club said he was worth a 3rd and they were right.

Bottom Line.

Hehe

[BossChief]

If Avery could get/stay healthy, he could be a dangerous weapon in this offense.

It's too bad he's made of glass..

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by TimBone

Wait, SNR was pimping Ricky Stanzi?

Stanzi was my boo. I really liked what I saw out of him as a rookie in training camp and preseason of 2011. It wouldn't have been anything more than a passing interest in his development, but then Tyler Palko happened because Haley would castrate himself if it made him look smarter than he is. I was really riled up that we weren't rolling with Stanzi to see what he had.

I was all prepared to see the next leg of his development as a QB the next offseason, but he totally sucked dick. I jumped off the wagon faster than I got on.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by SNR

No, it only looks like I am because you think a rookie free agent who wasn't even trusted with offensive snaps until a month ago and has a BIG WHOPPING 120 yards and no TDs in two games is better than Avery, who hasn't produced because he's been INJURED.

God, you're dumb.

1 guy will be in the league next year the other guy probably won't be.

[Jim Lahey]

Point is Wilson is getting the targets with a QB who isnt big on targeting WRs while Averys broke ass is standing on the sidelines with his easily expendable cap. Even when Avery gets healthy, I dont expect to see him take Wilsons snaps back.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Jim Lahey

Point is Wilson is getting the targets with a QB who isnt big on targeting WRs while Averys broke ass is standing on the sidelines with his easily expendable cap. Even when Avery gets healthy, I dont expect to see him take Wilsons snaps back.

He won't. SNR is trying to argue the undrafted WR must not be better because it took 12 weeks for him to win a starting job. What a joke.

[Jim Lahey]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

He won't. SNR is trying to argue the undrafted WR must not be better because it took 12 weeks for him to win a starting job. What a joke.

People cant expect Andy Reid to throw an UDFA out there week 1 with his full trust in his WCO. Even when Avery was initially hurt it wasnt Wilson getting the snaps. He's obviously impressed Reid and the coaching staff enough in practice throughout the season to give him the snaps and he's making the most of it.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

He won't. SNR is trying to argue the undrafted WR must not be better because it took 12 weeks for him to win a starting job. What a joke.

We've had JAGs string together consecutive weeks of good production before. This is nothing new.

I'm hopeful for Wilson as well, and if there's any butt**** WR on this team who might eventually be good one day, it's probably him. But I'm not crowning his ass yet as being better than Avery. The odds are against Wilson ever beating Avery in terms of career production totals.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by SNR

Stanzi was my boo. I really liked what I saw out of him as a rookie in training camp and preseason of 2011. It wouldn't have been anything more than a passing interest in his development, but then Tyler Palko happened because Haley would castrate himself if it made him look smarter than he is. I was really riled up that we weren't rolling with Stanzi to see what he had.

I was all prepared to see the next leg of his development as a QB the next offseason, but he totally sucked dick. I jumped off the wagon faster than I got on.

Oh, that's fine. I think everybody wanted to see Stanzi at that point.

[Hootie]

SNR, love the guy, but after the Geno Smith monstrosity I don't think he's allowed to chastise anyone for thinking Albert Wilson is better than Donnie Avery.

[lcarus]

If I'm Dorsey, Donnie Avery is ****ing beyond gone after this season.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

SNR, love the guy, but after the Geno Smith monstrosity I don't think he's allowed to chastise anyone for thinking Albert Wilson is better than Donnie Avery.

Because I wanted the team to draft a ****ing QB instead of a LT who's not even any ****ing good? Riiiight.

And besides, what the **** has Albert Wilson done?

Has he scored a single TD? Has he had a 100 yard game? Has he even made a single 3rd down catch for a 1st down?

He's done ****ing nothing.

Given his age, injury history, and cap number, I'm not going to shed a tear if Avery gets raped this offseason, but that doesn't mean the guys we will keep are all better than him. I would look at it as a shittier version of cutting Brandon Flowers.

And it certainly doesn't mean that Wilson is the better player right now. If Avery saw a Navajo medicine man and got his vagina 100% healed, you'd have to be insane not to start him over Wilson.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Give me a break. He wasn't a "reach" and he's certainly proven his worth.

Why anyone would denigrate Dorsey for this selection is beyond me.



Walter's been around since the 90's and he's still as worthless as ever. They're all hobbyists at best. They're not professional scouts that are on the road 45 weeks out of the year, helping teams evaluate players, nor is there any repercussion from their mock drafts and "analysis" because they aren't employed by an actual NFL organization.

In other words, no one is going fire Walter for saying that Knile Davis is a "bad selection", which makes his opinion(s) just like everyone else on the internet.

That was the opinion of walter, that was the opinion of "a few NFL GMS".

And i'm gathering from what you're saying, is that you believe there is no such thing as a reach? The opinion of no one matters, except for NFL gms, and scouting agents. If a team drafts a guy the rest of the world thinks is an UDFA in the first round. Then the guy wasnt a reach because an NFL orginization took him.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by SNR

He as a reach at the time by whose standards? I know a lot of draft sites at the time had him as a 3rd/4th/5th round pick. Hardly UDFA leftover garbage like you claim he was at the time.

He was graded by most as a mid round talent and the injury history would cause him to fall. If he was graded as a first round talent with an injury history, then i wouldnt consider him a reach. I never saw anyone grade him as a first round talent.

But we are kind of getting off track here. My original comparison of Dorsey and Davis, wasnt meant to be taken literally. I don't think any of his picks were horrible, or that he looks at speed alone. But it is quite clear he highly values speed, and athleticism. The chiefs probably have the fastest roster in the NFL. 3 4.3 backs, 2 4.3 Wr, 2 4.3 DBs, 2 sub 4.4 safeties, nearly all of which were brought in by dorsey.

Knile has worked out so im happy we took him. But im not going to pretend it was a good pick. The same exact way the Sherman trade didnt make sense. It worked out in the end, so it is easy to write it off as a good trade.... but it didn't make any sense....