Football RGIII throws his teammates under the bus - Page 4

Deberg_1990 · 11-17-2014, 06:07 PM

Nice job

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ASHBURN, Va., -- Washington Redskins coach Jay Gruden had no issue with the bulk of what quarterback Robert Griffin III said after Sunday's loss to Tampa Bay. But Gruden made it clear that Griffin went too far with his comments, leading to another potential issue with the struggling team.

And Gruden also emphasized, perhaps more importantly, a need for Griffin to improve his fundamentals.

After Sunday's 27-7 loss to Tampa Bay, Griffin spoke about the mistakes he had made and how he must play better. But towards the end of his press conference, Griffin said, "If you want to look at the good teams in this league and the great quarterbacks, the Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Mannings, those guys don't play well if their guys don't play well. I need every guy in that locker room and I know they are looking at me saying the same thing."

Griffin went one step too far for Gruden, who told the quarterback as much Monday. While Gruden agreed that others need to play better, that's a message that should come from a coach not a player.

"It's his job to worry about his position, his footwork, his fundamentals, his reads, his progressions, his job at the quarterback position," Gruden said. "It's my job to worry about everybody else. And, yes, everybody else needs to improve. There's no question about it. But it's not his place. His place is to talk about himself and he knows that. He just elaborated a little bit too much."

Perhaps spurred by Griffin's post-game comment, or perhaps by some headlines it generated, receiver DeSean Jackson posted a comment on Instagram that read, "You can't do epic s--- with basic people."

That led to Gruden addressing the issue in a team meeting Monday, not wanting another issue to escalate at Redskins Park -- as they often have over the years.

"I don't know exactly what DeSean meant, but I think he was frustrated a little bit with what came out about Robert," Gruden said. "One of the headlines was 'Robert throws team under the bus.' Whatever he said after the postgame got twisted around a little bit. It's our job in-house as players and coaches to make sure we say the right things and not let your words get twisted by the media or anybody. Otherwise it'll be he-said, she-said and there will be Twitter wars and social media events that will get out of control. We've got to put a stop to it now."

An hour or so after Gruden's press conference, Griffin took to social media and said on Twitter:

The Redskins are 0-2 since Griffin returned from a dislocated left ankle. Since his rookie season, Griffin's star has fallen, thanks to injuries and subsequent lackluster play. Washington has lost eight straight games that Griffin has started and played the entire game.

Sunday, he completed 23-of-32 passes for 207 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions. He was sacked six times, often because of indecision or improper fundamentals, Gruden said.

"Robert had some fundamental flaws," Gruden said. "His footwork was below average. He took three-step drops when he should have taken five. He took a one-step drop when he should have taken three, on a couple occasions, and that can't happen. He stepped up when he didn't have to step up and stepped into pressure. He read the wrong side of the field a couple times. So from his basic performance just critiquing Robert it was not even close to being good enough to what we expect from the quarterback position."

Gruden said some of Griffin's issues stem from him trying to do too much, rather than just execute the basic play. He attributed that to Griffin's competitiveness. But sometimes, Gruden said, just simple precision works best.

"Just take your drops the right way and throw the five-yard stick route when you're supposed to and do the best you can," Gruden said. "Sometimes he worries a little bit too much, we've just got to try to get him better. His frame of mind is in the right place. It just doesn't come out the right way sometimes, but he wants to get better. He knows he has a long way to go to get better. If he stays on the right track as far as work ethic and listening and preparing, then he'll get better."

Gruden said sometimes Griffin sees something that isn't there or speeds up the play unnecessarily.

"You just have to play with greater poise," Gruden said, "and continue to rep these things so when you catch a shotgun snap or take a drop from center that should be the last thing you should think about. That should come natural. Right now, for whatever reason, those aren't coming natural and that's on us as a staff. We've got to make sure we make it as natural for him as possible."

Reerun_KC · 11-18-2014, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Almost any QB in this league would have broken under Shanahan's idiotic system (one that very much had Synder's support).

especially ones that like to run....

OldSchool · 11-18-2014, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Almost any QB in this league would have broken under Shanahan's idiotic system (one that very much had Synder's support).

No, RG3 hurt himself on a scramble without any contact. He's built like a gazelle with dainty, easily injured legs.

jonzie04 · 11-19-2014, 12:07 AM

****, that franchise is in shambles. Might be time for them to nuke the whole thing.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-19-2014, 12:30 AM

I've seen RGIII this season.

I find it very hard to believe the guy can throw anything

**Mav** · 11-19-2014, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Almost any QB in this league would have broken under Shanahan's idiotic system (one that very much had Synder's support).

The same system that Brian Hoyer is 6-4 in?

Hootie · 11-19-2014, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Griffin would be PERFECT here.

Uhm, why

bshmerlie · 11-19-2014, 01:34 AM

I don't think Griffin will be playing for the Redskins next year. I think he'd make a great backup to Alex. Think about him before he got ****ed up by the Redskins. He has a lot of talent. Put him in the right system and maybe he develops into something good. Worth a look at for the right price.

**Mav** · 11-19-2014, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bshmerlie

I don't think Griffin will be playing for the Redskins next year. I think he'd make a great backup to Alex. Think about him before he got ****ed up by the Redskins. He has a lot of talent. Put him in the right system and maybe he develops into something good. Worth a look at for the right price.

Disagree on two fronts. One, Dan Snyder loves this guy. Second, Andy isn't taking on that kind of problem.

Chiefspants · 11-19-2014, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

No, RG3 hurt himself on a scramble without any contact. He's built like a gazelle with dainty, easily injured legs.

Yeah, Mom is a huge Skins fan. I watched each of their games toward the end of that season. RGIII has never been the same since this hit.

OldSchool · 11-19-2014, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Yeah, Mom is a Skins fan. I watched each of their games toward the end of the season. RGIII has never been the same since this hit.

That's a heavy load of man on him.

Chiefspants · 11-19-2014, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

The same system that Brian Hoyer is 6-4 in?

RGIII won a division (something that actually matters) with that system you Browns/9er/Chief goofy hybrid you.

**Mav** · 11-19-2014, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

RGIII won a division (something that actually matters) with that system you Browns/9er/Chief goofy hybrid you.

Sighs.

I am ashamed.

Chiefspants · 11-19-2014, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

That's a heavy load of man on him.

He actually played two possessions after that hit (shanny was and is absolutely crazy). He was then diagnosed with a MCL sprain and went on to miss his next start. In his starts after, he ran with a limp and was being treated on the sideline almost every other possession. He then had a "no contact" ACL tear against the Seahawks.

Say what you will, but I'm guessing the majority of the damage was done on that hit alone. Shanny and Snyder were absolutely out of their minds to play him after the Ravens game.

Chiefspants · 11-19-2014, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

Sighs.

I am ashamed.

I like you, that "insult" was all in good fun.

**Mav** · 11-19-2014, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I like you, that "insult" was all in good fun.

I gathered lol.

11-17-2014, 06:07 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	RGIII throws his teammates under the bus Nice job http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?story...e.com%2F%22%7D ASHBURN, Va., -- Washington Redskins coach Jay Gruden had no issue with the bulk of what quarterback Robert Griffin III said after Sunday's loss to Tampa Bay. But Gruden made it clear that Griffin went too far with his comments, leading to another potential issue with the struggling team. And Gruden also emphasized, perhaps more importantly, a need for Griffin to improve his fundamentals. After Sunday's 27-7 loss to Tampa Bay, Griffin spoke about the mistakes he had made and how he must play better. But towards the end of his press conference, Griffin said, "If you want to look at the good teams in this league and the great quarterbacks, the Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Mannings, those guys don't play well if their guys don't play well. I need every guy in that locker room and I know they are looking at me saying the same thing." Griffin went one step too far for Gruden, who told the quarterback as much Monday. While Gruden agreed that others need to play better, that's a message that should come from a coach not a player. "It's his job to worry about his position, his footwork, his fundamentals, his reads, his progressions, his job at the quarterback position," Gruden said. "It's my job to worry about everybody else. And, yes, everybody else needs to improve. There's no question about it. But it's not his place. His place is to talk about himself and he knows that. He just elaborated a little bit too much." Perhaps spurred by Griffin's post-game comment, or perhaps by some headlines it generated, receiver DeSean Jackson posted a comment on Instagram that read, "You can't do epic s--- with basic people." That led to Gruden addressing the issue in a team meeting Monday, not wanting another issue to escalate at Redskins Park -- as they often have over the years. "I don't know exactly what DeSean meant, but I think he was frustrated a little bit with what came out about Robert," Gruden said. "One of the headlines was 'Robert throws team under the bus.' Whatever he said after the postgame got twisted around a little bit. It's our job in-house as players and coaches to make sure we say the right things and not let your words get twisted by the media or anybody. Otherwise it'll be he-said, she-said and there will be Twitter wars and social media events that will get out of control. We've got to put a stop to it now." An hour or so after Gruden's press conference, Griffin took to social media and said on Twitter: The Redskins are 0-2 since Griffin returned from a dislocated left ankle. Since his rookie season, Griffin's star has fallen, thanks to injuries and subsequent lackluster play. Washington has lost eight straight games that Griffin has started and played the entire game. Sunday, he completed 23-of-32 passes for 207 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions. He was sacked six times, often because of indecision or improper fundamentals, Gruden said. "Robert had some fundamental flaws," Gruden said. "His footwork was below average. He took three-step drops when he should have taken five. He took a one-step drop when he should have taken three, on a couple occasions, and that can't happen. He stepped up when he didn't have to step up and stepped into pressure. He read the wrong side of the field a couple times. So from his basic performance just critiquing Robert it was not even close to being good enough to what we expect from the quarterback position." Gruden said some of Griffin's issues stem from him trying to do too much, rather than just execute the basic play. He attributed that to Griffin's competitiveness. But sometimes, Gruden said, just simple precision works best. "Just take your drops the right way and throw the five-yard stick route when you're supposed to and do the best you can," Gruden said. "Sometimes he worries a little bit too much, we've just got to try to get him better. His frame of mind is in the right place. It just doesn't come out the right way sometimes, but he wants to get better. He knows he has a long way to go to get better. If he stays on the right track as far as work ethic and listening and preparing, then he'll get better." Gruden said sometimes Griffin sees something that isn't there or speeds up the play unnecessarily. "You just have to play with greater poise," Gruden said, "and continue to rep these things so when you catch a shotgun snap or take a drop from center that should be the last thing you should think about. That should come natural. Right now, for whatever reason, those aren't coming natural and that's on us as a staff. We've got to make sure we make it as natural for him as possible."
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