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Old 09-20-2018, 11:17 AM  
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We’ve got to get Eric Murray off the field


Everybody pretty much did their job here in the back end except Murray. This defense looks so much worse because of him. The guy just doesn’t have a good read on coverage.

It sucks that we are pressed to play him bc we are forced too due to Sorenson and Berry being hurt.

FWIW Armani Watts played 16 defensive snaps in the Steelers game as opposed to 3 in LA. I think he’s coming up to speed.

Only a matter of time until Murray is on the bench and we look better.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:20 PM   #76
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That's for sure.

But they did bring in Golden who did whatever the hell happened there and they Watts.
there were way better safeties sitting at below market value all offseason. They for some reason werent interested.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:21 PM   #77
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there were way better safeties sitting at below market value all offseason. They for some reason werent interested.
I argued recently that there are still safeties on the market for cheap that would be better than Murray but apparently I'm an idiot.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:22 PM   #78
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He didn't "have" to do anything. He put himself in that hole and did little to correct it.
A lot of people content Clark made him trade Peters.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:23 PM   #79
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They do have a talent problem and Veach deserves a lot of criticism for doing nothing about this secondary.

Actually what they did was ass backwards, they go all front 7 for run D..when you score 30 points a game no one is going to be running much on you.
I disagree. Veach and Andy doubled down on Pat and O. Felt very strongly they could win shoot outs, but having the time of possession dominated by the other team could be an issue. How teams primarily dominate and control the clock is in the running game. You had to try to take the running game of the opponent out of the equation by fixing the run D first IMO.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:25 PM   #80
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I dont disagree on them having a talent problem. My issue is them doubling down on.the scheme/defensive coordinator two years in a row and saying its the talent like a broken record. If thats the route we all expect them to go in.
Again, if it actually IS the talent, why would they blame something other than the actual cause? It may sound like a broken record but a broken record is indeed broken.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:27 PM   #81
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I disagree. Veach and Andy doubled down on Pat and O. Felt very strongly they could win shoot outs, but having the time of possession dominated by the other team could be an issue. How teams primarily dominate and control the clock is in the running game. You had to try to take the running game of the opponent out of the equation by fixing the run D first IMO.
If you score 30+ points no one is going to hand off though....matter of fact if you are scoring like that you'd be thrilled if they'd hand off, let them take 8 minutes to score.

The running game is being further and further less used in todays league, who is a real running team? All of the top flight teams are passing teams.
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Again, if it actually IS the talent, why would they blame something other than the actual cause? It may sound like a broken record but a broken record is indeed broken.
To blame talent and do nothing about said talent is a problem though.
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Again, if it actually IS the talent, why would they blame something other than the actual cause? It may sound like a broken record but a broken record is indeed broken.
you dont get to use the same get out of jail free card in the NFL two seasons in a row. Your local media and fanbase wont buy into it unless youre a complete homer.
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To blame talent and do nothing about said talent is a problem though.
I don’t think it’s fair to say they did “nothing” though.

Hitchens, Williams, Fuller were all 3 good additions. And they went all in on defense in the draft. It’s hard to find guys that have an immediate impact without a 1st and picking late though.

What I don’t understand is, it really seemed like most were in agreement that the defense was a two year project. I honestly don’t know why a lot of people forgot that.

When did they say that it was the talent AND all they needed is one year to fix it?
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:31 PM   #85
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To blame talent and do nothing about said talent is a problem though.
Of course it is, but trying to sell a lie to save face isn't a good thing to do either.
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you dont get to use the same get out of jail free card in the NFL two seasons in a row. Your local media and fanbase wont buy into it unless youre a complete homer.
The local media and fanbase won't buy a straight up lie, either.
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I don’t think it’s fair to say they did “nothing” though.

Hitchens, Williams, Fuller were all 3 good additions. And they went all in on defense in the draft. It’s hard to find guys that have an immediate impact without a 1st and picking late.

What I don’t understand is, it really seemed like most were in agreement that the defense was a two year project. I honestly don’t know why a lot of people forgot that.
Because Mahomes is WAY better than we thought he'd be at this point.
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Because Mahomes is WAY better than we thought he'd be at this point.
That’s nonsensical.
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To blame talent and do nothing about said talent is a problem though.
You've got your 3rd and 4th rounders sitting on the bench for no reason except they're rookies. Same shit with Zombo and Kpassagnon last year.
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I don’t think it’s fair to say they did “nothing” though.

Hitchens, Williams, Fuller were all 3 good additions. And they went all in on defense in the draft. It’s hard to find guys that have an immediate impact without a 1st and picking late though.

What I don’t understand is, it really seemed like most were in agreement that the defense was a two year project. I honestly don’t know why a lot of people forgot that.

When did they say that it was the talent AND all they needed is one year to fix it?
Did we not have the juice or the desire to move up for a guy like Josh Jackson?
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