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They come here and the government has some understanding and talks with them, has ships and bodies, and knows something about what they are. 25 16.23%
They come here, and the government investigates sightings and keeps secrets and has evidence but they don't know much. 31 20.13%
They exist and they come here but no one (including government) has any solid physical evidence or shocking secrets. 11 7.14%
They exist and are intelligent and could come here but they don't. 18 11.69%
Intelligent life exists in some form but can't come here because of distance/technology challenges. 54 35.06%
Something exists out there somewhere but it isn't intelligent. 8 5.19%
There are no life forms anywhere else. 7 4.55%
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Old 05-30-2015, 07:46 PM  
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What is your stance on aliens?
I am curious to see where everyone stands on this. Asking about a stance on UFOs could be a different topic with different options so feel to give your thoughts on that as well.
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Old 06-01-2015, 01:49 PM   #181
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you have no idea how police investigations work -
Maybe not, but I'm still very certain they're not proof of aliens sneaking around stealing bovine buttholes.
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Old 06-01-2015, 02:07 PM   #182
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They exist but mostly likely only in a 4th and 5th dimentional plane of our consciousness. Ask anyone who has ever had a strong Ayahuasca or DMT experience if aliens exist. The answer you get won't be what anyone who hasn't had those experiences would say. (And I'm not talking about some drugged out misfit types but rather highly functioning normal people who have had these experience....in particularly with Shamans in South America).

We all know much less than we think we do. So convinced that life as we see it is the ultimate reality...when many interesting and highly educated people will tell you its not. Mind you I have never had these experiences (yet) and certainly have never seen an alien but in talking with many people I have encountered and respect on this subject I believe there is much more to life then what we see with our 5 senses in our busy and stressed out lives.

Oh, and lastly...alien life forms have at one time physically lived on earth and helped shape our history. There are things that can't logically be explained otherwise. An interesting thought is IF Aliens did teach us about astronomy, mathematics, build pyramids, supply us with knowledge to grow, build and develop more as a species etc....would they be proud of us now?

I'd love for this to be proven true, if for nothing else than to watch religious nutbag's belief system crumble around them.
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Old 06-01-2015, 02:08 PM   #183
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The logical one.

You like to think yourself open minded but in reality you're just as close minded as someone who is certain you didn't see anything alien.
True...i can't be certain....not that i know of I haven't anyway
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Old 06-01-2015, 02:09 PM   #184
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Oh, and lastly...alien life forms have at one time physically lived on earth and helped shape our history. There are things that can't logically be explained otherwise. An interesting thought is IF Aliens did teach us about astronomy, mathematics, build pyramids, supply us with knowledge to grow, build and develop more as a species etc....would they be proud of us now?
What things have no explanation other than alien intervention?
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Old 06-01-2015, 02:18 PM   #185
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Old 06-01-2015, 02:25 PM   #186
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Maybe not, but I'm still very certain they're not proof of aliens sneaking around stealing bovine buttholes.
I never said it was - you are imagining me saying that - All I said was if all cattle mutilations were debunked then police wouldn't bother opening an investigation.
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Old 06-01-2015, 02:28 PM   #187
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The logical one.

You like to think yourself open minded but in reality you're just as close minded as someone who is certain you didn't see anything alien.
No one here has seen what I have seen - so it's a little illogical to be certain I didn't see anything....
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Old 06-01-2015, 02:42 PM   #188
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No one here has seen what I have seen - so it's a little illogical to be certain I didn't see anything....
I don't think anyone's arguing that you didn't see something.

You saw something. You saw something strange. You saw something you can't explain.. That doesn't mean it was aliens.
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Old 06-01-2015, 02:43 PM   #189
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I never said it was - you are imagining me saying that - All I said was if all cattle mutilations were debunked then police wouldn't bother opening an investigation.
But that doesn't make any sense at all. UFO/Alien autopsy has been debunked as the source for cattle mutilations. But that doesn't mean that police shouldn't investigate any suspicious cattle deaths anymore. What if some idiot is out there actually killing cattle trying to make it look like some crazy UFO conspiracy? There are many reasons for a police investigation that have nothing at all to do with UFOs. Which is why the existence of a police report fails as evidence of aliens.
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But I guarandamntee you that what I have seen and captured (on video) was not of this world
So what's the story and where's the video?
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Old 06-01-2015, 02:49 PM   #191
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No one here has seen what I have seen - so it's a little illogical to be certain I didn't see anything....
What does your police training tell you about the reliability of eyewitness testimony?
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But that doesn't make any sense at all. UFO/Alien autopsy has been debunked as the source for cattle mutilations.
You said " it has been debunked that animals and bugs make the kind of marks left on the cattle" So if we scientifically know that:

A: Bugs and animals make these marks
B: There is no evidence of human presence (footprints, tire tracks etc) around the livestock

Then there is no cause for a police investigation. It's a pretty simple concept. That doesn't automatically mean that it's aliens. What it doesn't mean is that it's not a clear cut case of crazy west nile mosquitoes devouring a cattle out the the rage in their tiny brain.
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Video - on an old Mini DV cassette - I'll have to dig around for it and figure out how to covert it to digital
Mini-DV? We used those back in HS. We used Mac products and it was pretty simple. Just connect a "Firewire" to the device and hit export.
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I don't think anyone's arguing that you didn't see something.

You saw something. You saw something strange. You saw something you can't explain.. That doesn't mean it was aliens.
I saw something I can't explain and showed it to several experts in fields of study that might have had some clue...and nada
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You said " it has been debunked that animals and bugs make the kind of marks left on the cattle" So if we scientifically know that:

A: Bugs and animals make these marks
B: There is no evidence of human presence (footprints, tire tracks etc) around the livestock

Then there is no cause for a police investigation. It's a pretty simple concept. That doesn't automatically mean that it's aliens. What it doesn't mean is that it's not a clear cut case of crazy west nile mosquitoes devouring a cattle out the the rage in their tiny brain.
Story. Tell it. What did you see and record?
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