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Old 04-21-2018, 04:51 PM  
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Realistic expectations for Patrick Mahomes

I know in the hearts of every planeteer, Mahomes has already led us to multiple Super Bowls, and that this whole career thing is just a formality before his HOF induction ceremony, but what is everyone realistically looking for from him this season?

Maybe I'm just letting my battered fan syndrome take over, but I feel like we need to pump the brakes a little bit. He looked solid against Denver, sure, but he's still just a second year guy that was pretty raw coming out of college.

So, what kind of numbers would everyone be happy with? What kind of things will you all be personally looking for from him?

Lastly, if you think I'm being a pussy and need to shut up and buckle up for the Mahomes show, please hit me with your best neg rep. The funnier the better.
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Old 04-22-2018, 03:31 PM   #106
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Its really close, IMO.

Hunt = Bell
Hill = brown
Watkins = Bryant
Kelce > Jones
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Old 04-22-2018, 03:35 PM   #107
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At the time of his retirement, Favre owned or shared 389 NFL records

He still owns or shares 176 of those

First and only player to win 3 consecutive league MVP awards

Played in two Super Bowls, winning one

First QB to win a playoff game after age 40

His Iron Man streak of consecutive games started by a QB will likely never be broken

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...by_Brett_Favre
You get a lot of records when you play for 80 years.


And in no way shape or form is favre better than Rodgers. Not in any aspect of quarterbacking.
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Old 04-22-2018, 03:36 PM   #108
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I predict 4000 yard, 25 TD and 17INT.
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Old 04-22-2018, 03:38 PM   #109
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I canít believe people think Pat will only throw in the 3,000ís.

Do you have any idea how talented he is? Any idea what weapons he has? Or most of all any idea who our coach is?

Andy is building an Air-Raid offense. Weíre in big trouble if youíre only throwing for 3,000 in the air raid.
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Old 04-22-2018, 03:39 PM   #110
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I'm going to try to give an honest prediction w/o sounding too homerish. But, Andy loves to put the ball in the air. He knew what the limitations were with Alex, and game planned within his strengths. Mahomes physical abilities, combined with the downfield speed of Hill and Watson will spread out defenses and keep the damn safties out of the box. I'm looking for at least a couple deep passes in every game, Kelce having his best year as a Chief, and the running game having it's best YPC since Charles was in his prime.

As far as Mahomes, he's going to make mistakes as a rookie and have just an average TD to INT ratio as a rookie. I'm going to be pessimistic and guess 3800 yards, 26 TD's, and 20 INT's in his first year as a starter. I hope I'm wrong, but I saw a little of it in the Donkey game where he trusted his arm strength a little too much and put the ball in very tight windows. Hopefully an entire offseason will allow the WR's to get used to the velocity of his pass.
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Old 04-22-2018, 03:45 PM   #111
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I canít believe people think Pat will only throw in the 3,000ís.
yes because anythign short of 4000 is a failure and theres no way he could throw for less in his rookie season

LOL

good to see ol rusty the homer back at it

by the way how many rookie / red shirt QB's have gone over 4000 ?? just out of curiousity
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Old 04-22-2018, 03:53 PM   #112
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And in no way shape or form is favre better than Rodgers. Not in any aspect of quarterbacking.
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:06 PM   #113
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I can’t believe people think Pat will only throw in the 3,000’s.

Do you have any idea how talented he is? Any idea what weapons he has? Or most of all any idea who our coach is?

Andy is building an Air-Raid offense. We’re in big trouble if you’re only throwing for 3,000 in the air raid.
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3200 yards passing

18 TDs
7 INTs

Very 'Alex Smith' like numbers
Woo. Aim high DeBerg. If it is realistic to think that Mahomes will only get 3200 passing yards with that type of TD/INT ratio, then we wasted a draft pick on him, especially when you consider the talent surrounding him.

Jacoby Bissett got similar stats last year with that Colts dumpster fire.....

Those type of stats will have you drafting in the top 10 year after year.
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:13 PM   #114
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even getting a wildcard spot would be huge for the kid IMO

i believe the raiders are slight favorites to win the divixsion , so winning the division would be awesome although i dont really expect it

if he does crack 4000 and have around 2:1 td to int ratio, i would probably orgasm

even if we go 8-8 and miss the wildcard, and he 'only' throws for 3500 or so, as long as there is clear progress and he stays healthy.... this will literally be the most excited that I have been for chiefs football in 15 years
Chargers are gonna be favored for the division
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:19 PM   #115
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yes because anythign short of 4000 is a failure and theres no way he could throw for less in his rookie season

LOL

good to see ol rusty the homer back at it

by the way how many rookie / red shirt QB's have gone over 4000 ?? just out of curiousity
How many 2nd year QBís have his arm, coach, and supporting cast, and play in such a pass heavy system?
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:19 PM   #116
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Chargers are gonna be favored for the division
looks like youre correct

its pretty close, but the chargers are slight favorites, currently:

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures/

we aren't even currently predicted to do better than the broncos.

we are predicted to be a middle of the pack team....

I mean we did blow up the defense and we really are going to re design the offense around mahomes...so this shouldnt surprise anyone
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:22 PM   #117
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How many 2nd year QB’s have his arm, coach, and supporting cast, and play in such a pass heavy system?
i think cam newton in 2011 broke 4000 yards in his 1st full season...

bledsoe did it...but started like 13 games the year before...so i dunno if this counts really

also dan marino in 1984 (he started 10 games in 83 though....)

im not totally sure but my question is genuine

are there any other QB's who have broken 4000 yards in their 1st full season? Any who have started in only 1 game or less?
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:22 PM   #118
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I just laugh at anything that says the Chiefs aren’t favorites, or at least 2nd.

Two time defending champions of the West and in my opinion they have upgraded on both offense and defense (after the draft for sure) as an overall team. The Andy Reid factor alone should give them the benefit of the doubt with oddsmakers.

It’s whatever though, guess they need to prove it regardless.
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:29 PM   #119
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I just laugh at anything that says the Chiefs arenít favorites, or at least 2nd.
yep. we are last currently, by a narrow margin but according to vegas odds even the broncos are favored to win the AFC more than us..

and yes..

I agree we have to prove it. We blew the team up pretty well....so I mean....I'm not completely surprised but then again I am am prepared for some bumps in the road and some growing pains
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:32 PM   #120
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If there were tough teams in the division then it'd be one thing, but who really believes in the s***** Broncos or Raiders, or even the Chargers who always melt when they have to play the Chiefs?

I trust KC to win the West more than any of those other losers
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