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Old 04-16-2018, 02:54 PM  
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Daniel Jeremiah: Many expect Chiefs to trade up for a CB
Not real surprising, but from here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...oking-to-trade

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Chiefs are a candidate to trade up for a CB: The Chiefs don't own a first-round pick in this year's draft (they dealt that pick away in the Patrick Mahomes trade last year), but I won't be surprised if they move up from where they're picking in the second round (No. 54 overall). They have a glaring need at cornerback and the top cover men will be long gone by the time they are on the clock if they stay put at No. 54. They need to get into the range of picks 35-40 in order to secure a Day One starter at that position, and many around the league expect them to make that happen.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:22 PM   #121
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Using a combination of the pick from Peters and either this years 2 or 3.

Either combination would get us into the late first early second.
I dont think so
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:23 PM   #122
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Some aren't living in the real world concerning that making a very public trade will be expensive.

I'm shelling out nightmare scenarios, but people are acting like 3 year olds not understanding that the other team is out to **** us over too.

the trade chart is BS, when other teams are inflating the price because of a bidding war for player(s)
Trading hill isn't ****ing real world
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:33 PM   #123
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You do realize that doesn't matter, they just won the SB as it stands
And KC isn’t trading Tyreek Hill. That’s the dumbest ****ing thing anyone has said on this forum. Stop
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:34 PM   #124
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Giving up assets to replace a player we had on the cheap. Clown franchise.
A player who made most of the players around him less effective. He forced the defense to play to his strengths, not the strengths of the defense as a whole.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:36 PM   #125
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And KC isn’t trading Tyreek Hill. That’s the dumbest ****ing thing anyone has said on this forum. Stop

Exactly we stay as is, the Chiefs will **** themselves with the comp
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:50 PM   #126
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Yep.

While Mahomes will possibly make the OL look better than Alex did, no way anyone can deny they've never figured out the LG position and Witz is not the answer at all.

I don't think they gotta shift up in the draft to fill it, but hard to fill that need if they trade off half of the picks and spend it all on corners.

Moving up a but to land a starting corner and nabbing a 2nd one somewhere Day 3 is definitely realistic.


When they are trading off a future choice to fall back under the standard pick count threshold, what else would you call it?

Losing the actual net gain from the Peters trade to move up for his replacement would net them a 6th for 4th swap for an All-pro corner.

That would be like pissing on an electric fence because Frank said you were a pussy and wouldn't do it. You did it and by golly did it hurt, so your solution for burning dick is to numb it up some by sticking it in the waffle iron. Sure it goes numb and the pain subsides and Frank thinks you're cool as ****, but now your dick looks like a mangled burnt breadstick.
Losing Peters is a sunk cost.

If we aren’t going to have him this year using the picks we got from him to help this years team isn’t stealing from the future. It’s utilizung currency as it’s earned.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:52 PM   #127
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Soo...maybe I am out of the loop, but where has this been said by any credible source? I just don't understand how that makes any sense at all.
veach has shown a willingness to trade insanely talented but troubled young, cost-controlled players for relatively meager returns.
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:00 PM   #128
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here's the punch in the gut scenario: Veach maybe contemplating trading Tyreek.

If you're attempting to figure how to maintain the draft capital, with the current value of the Chiefs players.

It would suck, but one could argue that KC has enough talent to succeed in Offense to trade for an upgrade for the Defense.
Dude come on
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:25 PM   #129
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Dude come on
He should punch himself in the nuts for even suggesting it
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:30 PM   #130
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Losing Peters is a sunk cost.

If we aren’t going to have him this year using the picks we got from him to help this years team isn’t stealing from the future. It’s utilizung currency as it’s earned.
Doubling down on stupid isn't how you build a quality, long term team.

I know we're all high on Mahomes here, but I don't feel strongly about a first year starting QB taking us to the Super Bowl just quite yet. Don't feel it's completely necessary to go aggressive in that fashion today.

They will have other things to address coming up.

Unless Dee Ford really turns it around this year and they feel good about giving him a long-term deal, they're going to have a massive hole at edge rusher going into 2019.

Morse will be a FA, so they will also need a Center if they don't elect to keep him in house. Allen Bailey will be a FA too and I can't see him getting a 3rd contract.

Next year is shaping up to be a great class for DL and edge-rushers, so I'd rather keep the high choices we have now.
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They need to add 3 corners in this draft

2 need to have starting ability
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May not be Super Bowl push in 18 per say but you wanna push in 19,20,21

Get as many of the guys you think will be in their prime during that windowhere This year if you can and let them build together
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:04 PM   #133
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here's the punch in the gut scenario: Veach maybe contemplating trading Tyreek.

If you're attempting to figure how to maintain the draft capital, with the current value of the Chiefs players.

It would suck, but one could argue that KC has enough talent to succeed in Offense to trade for an upgrade for the Defense.
Why in the holy every-lovin bleepty bleep would Veach trade Hill?

He's young,improving with not a single ounce of trouble since joining the team. He seems to be a fine locker room guy and hasn't shown any inclination in wanting to live anywhere else. He was born in Florida but went to 2 colleges that are nearby in Garden City and Oklahoma State.

The Chiefs already have a QB so what player in this draft would be worth trading Hill for? I wouldn't trade Hill for the best cornerback in this draft Denzel Ward. A trade for the consensus best player is Saquon Barkley and that doesn't even make considering we already have Hunt.

If Veach would have held onto Peters for a while longer, we might have been able to get a good deal by using him to trade up but not Hill.

Put the Glunt down and go to sleep.
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Jeremiah on his mock draft live special tonight had a bold prediction of KC trading back into round one for a corner
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