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Old 04-28-2013, 03:03 PM  
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Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.
It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:04 PM   #841
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215.
The link says he weighs 232



does this look like a man that weighs 215?
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:08 PM   #842
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The link says he weighs 232



does this look like a man that weighs 215?
Yes. Probably less.

"Official" NFL weight is 215.
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:10 PM   #843
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:17 PM   #844
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232 it says here.....

but espn and chiefs.com says 215.....
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:17 PM   #845
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:18 PM   #846
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:21 PM   #847
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Yeah, but he's 6-2. He has a typical NFL QB body. Bray is REALLY skinny.

Geno isn't perfect, no. But there are reasons he was mocked in the 1st for months and Bray dropped like a rock.

To say they are the same guy is intellectually dishonest.
Bray was also mocked in the first for months, you'll recall.

You can keep speaking to an argument I didn't make if you'd like, but I'm not sure what you're accomplishing.

I didn't say they were the same guy at all; never have. I've said this several times now - Geno's unquestionably the 'safer' of the two. Geno has a middle ground where he could end up an average NFL starter; it's pretty damn unlikely that Bray hits that mark - he's going to be a very good NFL quarterback or he's not going to be in the league, IMO. I don't see him hanging out for 10 years as a marginal, 1 and done style QB.

A competent NFL quarterback has a great deal of value and it's that marginal value that made Geno a more attractive option than Bray. But when the Chiefs got Alex Smith, a guy that's already good to go as a competent NFL QB, well that marginal value became redundant for them.

To say that Bray, who was being mocked as a potential 1.1 at the end of last season, doesn't have the upside of Geno Smith is far more intellectually dishonest than anything I've said in this thread.
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:24 PM   #848
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Yes. Probably less.

"Official" NFL weight is 215.
What?

Dude's definitely thicker than I am and at 6'0'', I weigh 180 lbs.

Bray looks to me to be in that 225-230 range. And in person, he's clearly a thicker guy than Croyle. Hell, he looked easily as 'broad' as Alex Smith did when they were next to each other.

You've never bothered to actually listen to what anyone has to say anyway, but there's no way that Tyler Bray weighs 215 lbs.
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In person, Bray DOES NOT look 215 pounds. I'd be shocked if he isn't 230.

Saying he is skinny is flat out wrong.
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In person, Bray DOES NOT look 215 pounds. I'd be shocked if he isn't 230.

Saying he is skinny is flat out wrong.
I know he was hovering around 200 lbs during college.

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I'm willing to bet that if he is healthy, Geno will be the Jets starter by years end.
That's a pretty safe bet considering how fed up NY is with Sanchez. Then again, I don't recall Jets fans being ecstatic about drafting Geno, it was more of a WTF?!?!?
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