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Old 05-16-2018, 04:29 PM  
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Giuliani: Mueller's team told Trump's lawyers they can't indict a president

Giuliani: Mueller's team told Trump's lawyers they can't indict a president


(CNN)Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to the President's lawyer.

"All they get to do is write a report," Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani told CNN. "They can't indict. At least they acknowledged that to us after some battling, they acknowledged that to us."
That conclusion is likely based on longstanding Justice Department guidelines. It is not about any assessment of the evidence Mueller's team has compiled.
A lack of an indictment would not necessarily mean the President is in the clear. Mueller could issue a report making referrals or recommendations to the House of Representatives.
The inability to indict a sitting president has been the position of the Office of Legal Counsel in the Justice Department since the Nixon administration and reaffirmed in the Clinton administration, but it has never been tested in court.

It had been an open question whether, if investigators found potentially criminal evidence against Trump, Mueller's team would try to challenge those Justice Department guidelines.
CNN reached out to Mueller's team. They declined to comment.
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein publicly discussed the issue earlier this month at an event held by the Freedom Forum Institute. He was asked if a sitting president can be indicted.
"I'm not going to answer this in the context of any current matters, so you shouldn't draw any inference about it," Rosenstein said. "But the Department of Justice has in the past, when the issue arose, has opined that a sitting President cannot be indicted. There's been a lot of speculation in the media about this, I just don't have anything more to say about it." Rosenstein oversees the special counsel probe.
Giuliani tells CNN the special counsel's team has decided that "they have to follow the Justice Department rules."

"The Justice Department memos going back to before Nixon say that you cannot indict a sitting president, you have to impeach him. Now there was a little time in which there was some dispute about that, but they acknowledged to us orally that they understand that they can't violate the Justice Department rules," Giuliani said.
"We think it's bigger than that. We think it's a constitutional rule, but I don't think you're ever going to confront that because nobody's ever going to indict a sitting president. So, what does that leave them with? That leaves them with writing a report," said Giuliani.
It would then be up to the House of Representatives to decide what to do about with the special counsel's report -- and whether to pursue articles of impeachment.
Giuliani also said that he is using the one-year anniversary of the Mueller probe, which is Thursday, to push the special counsel to disclose how much money is being spent, and to actively begin negotiating with Trump's legal team over any Trump interview Mueller is seeking.
"Do you really need an interview?" Giuliani said he wants Mueller's team to answer.
"You've got all the facts. You've got all the documents. You've got all the explanations. We're happy to tell you they're not going to change."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/polit...ent/index.html
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:34 PM   #16
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The bubble is bursting for the Left. Mueller has admitted he has no teeth to bite Trump. Comey is being exposed for being dirty. Some at the DOJ and FBI are already exposed and in some cases, facing legal problems for being corrupt. John Brennan has been exposed now. Clapper the same. And another name is about to come out though I don't know who it is.

This is turning into the biggest boomerang in history where one part hi-jacked our Intel Agencies to attack a political opponent only to have their own crimes exposed.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:48 PM   #17
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:29 PM   #18
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Look one of the guilty party.

She should have gone to jail ****tard. She was never POTUS.

Once again proving you are the 2nd dumbest mother****er on CP next to Lone.
Nah, I just trigger you more than anybody else besides Lone. It's actually pretty amusing how riled up you get.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:59 PM   #19
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This is turning into the biggest boomerang in history where one part hi-jacked our Intel Agencies to attack a political opponent only to have their own crimes exposed.
Don't forget the "grab her by the pussy" meltdown, vagina marches, and then BAM!

Weinstein. Lauer and many, many others being exposed.

God has a great sense of humor.
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:55 PM   #20
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Don't forget the "grab her by the pussy" meltdown, vagina marches, and then BAM!

Weinstein. Lauer and many, many others being exposed.

God has a great sense of humor.
Laueer and Weinstein aspired to public service and elective politics? Such an outrage! The public deserves better! Oh, wait...they are just Hollywood loons.

Whereas the "grab her by the pussy" fella aspired/"won" and becomes the POTUS. Proud, proud moment in election history. Bravo! I'm sure your daughters/our daughters should be THRILLED!!! You red staters sure showed blue stater "city slicker" urban scum who really owns the country! Amiright?

Indeed, God has a great sense of humor--Trump beware; ask Nixon and Clinton. Heh.
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Laueer and Weinstein aspired to public service and elective politics? Such an outrage! The public deserves better! Oh, wait...they are just Hollywood loons.

Whereas the "grab her by the pussy" fella aspired/"won" and becomes the POTUS. Proud, proud moment in election history. Bravo! I'm sure your daughters/our daughters should be THRILLED!!! You red staters sure showed blue stater "city slicker" urban scum who really owns the country! Amiright?

Indeed, God has a great sense of humor--Trump beware; ask Nixon and Clinton. Heh.
You're an angry man, coming here for nothing but strife.

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Old 05-16-2018, 10:50 PM   #22
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I know that nuance isn't CP's strong suit, but everyone should know this from the outset. It would be up to the House to decide what to charge, if anything. Mueller will just issue a report.

I know this is just the overall strategy of the Trump camp - never defend, always attack - never defend what Trump says or does, spend all your time attacking his critics instead - but this is not a story. It doesn't mean Mueller doesn't have anything. If he had everything in the world it would still be up to the House.
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:57 PM   #23
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I know that nuance isn't CP's strong suit, but everyone should know this from the outset. It would be up to the House to decide what to charge, if anything. Mueller will just issue a report.

I know this is just the overall strategy of the Trump camp - never defend, always attack - never defend what Trump says or does, spend all your time attacking his critics instead - but this is not a story. It doesn't mean Mueller doesn't have anything. If he had everything in the world it would still be up to the House.
Of course it's a story.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/22/u...tarr-memo.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...?noredirect=on
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If true, it makes complete sense. It's never been done and I highly, highly doubt that this Supreme Court wants to open this pandora's box and set such a precedent.

If untrue, this was a savvy move by Rudy and co. Mueller and his team could not possibly comment on this - and it allows Trump and Rudy to control the narrative.
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All that proves is that a lot of people didn't understand how impeachment works in the first place.
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Laueer and Weinstein aspired to public service and elective politics? Such an outrage! The public deserves better! Oh, wait...they are just Hollywood loons.

Whereas the "grab her by the pussy" fella aspired/"won" and becomes the POTUS. Proud, proud moment in election history. Bravo! I'm sure your daughters/our daughters should be THRILLED!!! You red staters sure showed blue stater "city slicker" urban scum who really owns the country! Amiright?

Indeed, God has a great sense of humor--Trump beware; ask Nixon and Clinton. Heh.
How does Marcellus forget you when he puts together his dumbest mother****er rankings?
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I know that nuance isn't CP's strong suit, but everyone should know this from the outset. It would be up to the House to decide what to charge, if anything. Mueller will just issue a report.

I know this is just the overall strategy of the Trump camp - never defend, always attack - never defend what Trump says or does, spend all your time attacking his critics instead - but this is not a story. It doesn't mean Mueller doesn't have anything. If he had everything in the world it would still be up to the House.
I agree.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:25 AM   #28
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I know that nuance isn't CP's strong suit, but everyone should know this from the outset. It would be up to the House to decide what to charge, if anything. Mueller will just issue a report.

I know this is just the overall strategy of the Trump camp - never defend, always attack - never defend what Trump says or does, spend all your time attacking his critics instead - but this is not a story. It doesn't mean Mueller doesn't have anything. If he had everything in the world it would still be up to the House.
Exactly.
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Trump is not above the law, can be indicted: Napolitano




Judge Andrew Napolitano pushed back against Rudy Giuliani’s claims that President Trump cannot be indicted in the Russia investigation, saying Thursday on Fox Business Network that the president is “not above the law.”

Giuliani, a member of Trump’s legal team, told CNN on Wednesday that special counsel Robert Mueller’s team told Trump’s lawyers that they cannot indict a sitting president, which Napolitano said was not explicitly true.

“The president is not above the law,” he said. “He can be indicted like anybody else.”
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Trump is not above the law, can be indicted: Napolitano




Judge Andrew Napolitano pushed back against Rudy Giuliani’s claims that President Trump cannot be indicted in the Russia investigation, saying Thursday on Fox Business Network that the president is “not above the law.”

Giuliani, a member of Trump’s legal team, told CNN on Wednesday that special counsel Robert Mueller’s team told Trump’s lawyers that they cannot indict a sitting president, which Napolitano said was not explicitly true.

“The president is not above the law,” he said. “He can be indicted like anybody else.”
Yea you keep holding your breath big boy.

One would think you are smart enough to know its not that cut and dry, it woudl end up in the supreme court and I doubt they win an indictment.

First off you have to have an actual crime.
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