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Old 05-15-2018, 05:56 PM  
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Trump - Liar in Chief

70% of statements out of his mouth is either Mostly False or worse.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:56 AM   #46
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Can you prove that?
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:25 AM   #47
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Can you prove that?
You didn't realize this? Maybe we should be waiting on you... to catch up.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:42 AM   #48
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Do some of you really not understand that Trump is a New York billionaire who affects the brash and bold demeanor of the particular sector from which he hails?
They guy isn't lying, he's talking shit.
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:06 PM   #49
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Do some of you really not understand that Trump is a New York billionaire who affects the brash and bold demeanor of the particular sector from which he hails?
They guy isn't lying, he's talking shit.
But he exaggerates!
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:09 PM   #50
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Do some of you really not understand that Trump is a New York billionaire who affects the brash and bold demeanor of the particular sector from which he hails?
They guy isn't lying, he's talking shit.
Six of one, half dozen of the other.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:00 PM   #51
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You didn't realize this? Maybe we should be waiting on you... to catch up.
Can you prove that? Still waiting on some substance.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:19 PM   #52
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Can you prove that? Still waiting on some substance.
Can it be proven? How would you suggest I do that?

Do you accept that journalists are overwhelmingly left wing? Do you accept that those left wing journalists routinely allow their bias to infect their straight news reporting?
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:25 PM   #53
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....according to "politifact."
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That's a pretty good list that shows just how dishonest Politifact is.
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This is like a greatest hits of far left, hyper=partisan fact checking.
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Uses a 95% false site as source - seems legit!
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politifact/

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LEAST BIASED

These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes). The reporting is factual and usually sourced. These are the most credible media sources. See all Least Biases sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH
World Press Freedom Rank: USA 43/180

Notes: PolitiFact.com is a project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets “fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups”. They publish original statements and their evaluations on the PolitiFact.com website, and assign each a “Truth-O-Meter” rating. The ratings range from “True” for completely accurate statements to “Pants on Fire” (from the taunt “Liar, liar, pants on fire”) for false and ridiculous claims. Politifact has been called left biased by right leaning and questionable sources. In fact, there is a source called Politifact Bias that is dedicated to pointing out Politifact’s biases.

In review, Politifact uses minimal loaded language in their articles and headlines. All information is well sourced to credible media and or direct statements from experts in the field or the politicians themselves. Fact Check selection leans slightly left as more right wing politicians are currently fact checked. This may be due to bias or the fact that Republicans currently control all branches of government and hence there is more to check. Overall, this update reveals a slight leftward shift in Politifact’s fact checking selection, but not enough to move them from the least biased category. Our rating scores are provided below:

Biased Wording = 1 (Politifact rarely uses biased words and headlines match the story)
Factual/Sourcing = 1 (Politifact sources everything, but will occasionally use a left or right biased source)
Story Choices = 3 (At this time Politifact’s story selection slightly favors the left)
Political Affiliation = 2 (Politifact is affiliated with the Left-Center rated Tampa Bay Times)

Total = 7
Average 7/4 = 1.75
1.75 = Left leaning Least biased (7/10/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 1/25/2018)
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:27 PM   #54
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That study is bias too dn't you know. Anything that doesn't conform to the trumpkins nonsense worldview is bias.

And fake news.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:36 PM   #55
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Do you accept that journalists are overwhelmingly left wing?
I accept that most likely lean a left, but not overwhelmingly so. Most journalists tend to reflect the communities they serve and/or live.

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Do you accept that those left wing journalists routinely allow their bias to infect their straight news reporting?

No.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:45 PM   #56
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I accept that most likely lean a left, but not overwhelmingly so. Most journalists tend to reflect the communities they serve and/or live.




No.
And where does the community that reports on Trump live?
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:51 PM   #57
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He lies all the time. Sometimes he says two incompatible things in the same sentence. You’d be foolish to take him at his word. Even when he says something true, he often mangles it with the wrong words (see his “wiretap” tweet).
It's a very dangerous thing to have a President that regularly lies and misleads. We shouldn't be normalizing it or accepting it because we like some of his policies.

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He grades out a lot better when you judge him by his actions and their results though. He’s a much better President than the last guy, who was also a serial liar.
That's your partisan take. You'd be hard pressed to find anybody with authority on these matters such as a Presidential historian that would agree with that.

And calling Obama a serial liar is flat out nonsense. Most of the things he says are true and non-controversial. Please get your head out of your ass Pat.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:51 PM   #58
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And where does the community that reports on Trump live?
The swamp.

Someone is supposed to be draining it, but they're doing the opposite.
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:31 PM   #59
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In Rebuke of Trump, Tillerson Says Lies Are a Threat to Democracy
“If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom,” he said in a commencement address at the Virginia Military Institute in Lexington, Va.

Even small falsehoods and exaggerations — things Mr. Trump are prone to — are problematic, Mr. Tillerson said. “When we as people, a free people, go wobbly on the truth even on what may seem the most trivial matters, we go wobbly on America,” he said.

“If we do not as Americans confront the crisis of ethics and integrity in our society and among our leaders in both the public and private sector — and regrettably at times even the nonprofit sector — then American democracy as we know it is entering its twilight years,” Mr. Tillerson warned.
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:33 PM   #60
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