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Old 05-15-2018, 05:56 PM  
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Trump - Liar in Chief

70% of statements out of his mouth is either Mostly False or worse.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:39 PM   #16
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Ha. The username reminds me of Carl Sagan. Think I’ll YouTube that up. Thanks.
It was a good read back in the day.
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:47 PM   #17
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This is why you can't really get anywhere in a dialogue with Trumpists. Everything that doesn't come from Fox News or Breitbart is immediately dismissed as partisan and you don't even have to offer a legitimate rebuttal.

Whether the 70% number is accurate, it's obvious he lies or misleads with his statements constantly. You guys love that he's willing to do this to serve your agenda - at least own up to it.
If this is the Left's idea of a "dialogue," then nothing of value is lost by not engaging in one.
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:47 PM   #18
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So, you're saying Trump is a standard politician?
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:02 PM   #19
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So, you're saying Trump is a standard politician?
I completely disagree with eDave on this. I don't forgive politicians who lie. I didn't forgive Clinton for lying about Monica Lewinsky, and I didn't forgive Obama for lying when he was selling Obamacare.

The thing is, those guys were rank amateurs as liars when you compare them to Trump. Trump tells stupid lies and obvious lies so often that people aren't even surprised or pissed off when he lies.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:11 PM   #20
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I completely disagree with eDave on this. I don't forgive politicians who lie. I didn't forgive Clinton for lying about Monica Lewinsky, and I didn't forgive Obama for lying when he was selling Obamacare.

The thing is, I really don't like Trump and I loved Obama..those guys were rank amateurs as liars when you compare them to Trump. Trump tells stupid lies and obvious lies so often that people aren't even surprised or pissed off when he lies.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:13 PM   #21
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This is why you can't really get anywhere in a dialogue with Trumpists. Everything that doesn't come from Fox News or Breitbart is immediately dismissed as partisan and you don't even have to offer a legitimate rebuttal.

Whether the 70% number is accurate, it's obvious he lies or misleads with his statements constantly. You guys love that he's willing to do this to serve your agenda - at least own up to it.
He lies all the time. Sometimes he says two incompatible things in the same sentence. You’d be foolish to take him at his word. Even when he says something true, he often mangles it with the wrong words (see his “wiretap” tweet).

He grades out a lot better when you judge him by his actions and their results though. He’s a much better President than the last guy, who was also a serial liar.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:18 PM   #22
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I completely disagree with eDave on this. I don't forgive politicians who lie. I didn't forgive Clinton for lying about Monica Lewinsky, and I didn't forgive Obama for lying when he was selling Obamacare.

The thing is, those guys were rank amateurs as liars when you compare them to Trump. Trump tells stupid lies and obvious lies so often that people aren't even surprised or pissed off when he lies.
You think obvious, silly lies that everyone can see through are better than slick, manipulative lies that fool the voting public until it’s too late? Not me.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:20 PM   #23
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I completely disagree with eDave on this. I don't forgive politicians who lie. I didn't forgive Clinton for lying about Monica Lewinsky, and I didn't forgive Obama for lying when he was selling Obamacare.

The thing is, those guys were rank amateurs as liars when you compare them to Trump. Trump tells stupid lies and obvious lies so often that people aren't even surprised or pissed off when he lies.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:21 PM   #24
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He lies all the time. Sometimes he says two incompatible things in the same sentence. You’d be foolish to take him at his word. Even when he says something true, he often mangles it with the wrong words (see his “wiretap” tweet).

He grades out a lot better when you judge him by his actions and their results though.
Exactly this!
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:13 PM   #25
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:24 PM   #26
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He lies all the time. Sometimes he says two incompatible things in the same sentence. You’d be foolish to take him at his word. Even when he says something true, he often mangles it with the wrong words (see his “wiretap” tweet).

He grades out a lot better when you judge him by his actions and their results though. He’s a much better President than the last guy, who was also a serial liar.
Yeah, pretty much this.
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I completely disagree with eDave on this. I don't forgive politicians who lie. I didn't forgive Clinton for lying about Monica Lewinsky, and I didn't forgive Obama for lying when he was selling Obamacare.

The thing is, those guys were rank amateurs as liars when you compare them to Trump. Trump tells stupid lies and obvious lies so often that people aren't even surprised or pissed off when he lies.
But yet you forgave hillary for lying about how she endangered national security with her personal email server.

You're a laughable clown that keeps digging a deeper hole with every post.
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:42 PM   #28
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But yet you forgave hillary for lying about how she endangered national security with her personal email server.

You're a laughable clown that keeps digging a deeper hole with every post.
He held his nose and crossed his toes when he voted for Hillary
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:44 PM   #29
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That's a pretty good list that shows just how dishonest Politifact is.
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