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Old 05-11-2018, 10:05 PM  
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Can We All Finally Admit Trump Is A Good President?

Can We All Finally Admit Trump Is A Good President?

“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”

By MICHAEL J. KNOWLES

May 10, 2018
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The Iran Deal in tatters, three American hostages safely returned from North Korea, which now offers to denuclearize and end the Korean War after 68 years, five top ISIS leaders captured — and that’s just this week. On the domestic front, in just a year-and-a-half, landmark tax reform has made the U.S. more competitive, fewer illegal aliens are entering our country than at any time in the past 17 years, and dozens of federal judges have taken the bench to defend the rule of law and our constitutional system. According to a poll from CNN of all outlets, more Americans today think the country is headed in the right direction than at any time in over a decade.

The Left unsurprisingly remains steadfast in their opposition to President Trump. What’s disappointing is that a handful of “Never Trump” Republicans remain equally unwilling to admit the obvious: Donald Trump is a good president. Indeed, the remaining anti-Trump voices on the Right seem more desperate than ever to take down the president, if only to prove that, actually, they were right all along.

An oft-abused Ralph Waldo Emerson saying comes to mind. Clumsy pedants misquote the transcendental essayist absurdly insisting, “Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” In reality Emerson wrote, “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” The distinction is crucial. Logic requires consistency, but logical premises can be proved wrong. The madman who is convinced he's a banana and therefore peels off his own skin follows a consistent logic; the trouble is that his premise isn’t true.

People are stubborn. More precisely, they easily fall prey to commitment bias, whereby individuals become more convinced of their position once they have declared it publicly. The more people defend their opinions, the more difficult those opinions are to dislodge even as evidence mounts to rebut them. Foolish ideologues, presented with evidence that reality contradicts their theories, reject reality for their theories.

Some conservatives and Republicans refused to vote for President Trump in 2016, and they did so for a variety of reasons. Some feared Trump would turn out to be a left-wing wolf in sheep’s clothing. Others insisted that Trump’s rough speech and boorish personal behavior would preclude his governing as a conservative and diminish the United States in the eyes of her citizens and the rest of the world. After 17 months, not only have none of those fears come to pass, but indeed all available evidence points in precisely the opposite direction: excellent governance at home, peace through strength abroad, and a long-absent hopefulness in the hearts of Americans.

Reality has refuted the “Never Trump” premises. That fact ought to be a cause for celebration among all but those who wish our country ill. Nevertheless, some still stubbornly hope President Trump will fail our country so they can avoid the indignity of having been wrong. But changing one’s mind in the light of new evidence is no vice; and consistency in the defense of fantasy is no virtue.

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Old 05-12-2018, 04:25 PM   #31
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Old 05-12-2018, 04:46 PM   #32
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Here's the unfortunate truth: Trump's intention was never to "Make America Great Again". It was simply to become president and institute policy that benefits him and his business partners. There is no doubt that Trump will be significantly richer at the end of his term, and that is and has always been his #1 priority.

How the middle class and rural America relate to a guy who literally has golden toilets baffles me. Who knew "believe me" could be so effective.
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Here's the unfortunate truth: Trump's intention was never to "Make America Great Again". It was simply to become president and institute policy that benefits him and his business partners. There is no doubt that Trump will be significantly richer at the end of his term, and that is and has always been his #1 priority.

How the middle class and rural America relate to a guy who literally has golden toilets baffles me. Who knew "believe me" could be so effective.
And how did you come across this information?
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:17 PM   #34
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Here's the unfortunate truth: Trump's intention was never to "Make America Great Again". It was simply to become president and institute policy that benefits him and his business partners. There is no doubt that Trump will be significantly richer at the end of his term, and that is and has always been his #1 priority.

How the middle class and rural America relate to a guy who literally has golden toilets baffles me. Who knew "believe me" could be so effective.

Trump could probably become richer without the hassles of being the president
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Here's the unfortunate truth: Trump's intention was never to "Make America Great Again". It was simply to become president and institute policy that benefits him and his business partners. There is no doubt that Trump will be significantly richer at the end of his term, and that is and has always been his #1 priority.

How the middle class and rural America relate to a guy who literally has golden toilets baffles me. Who knew "believe me" could be so effective.
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:56 PM   #36
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-Make America great again seems to be a unifier for ALL Americans

If you first accept the premise America was not great.

-Protect our borders?

From who and at what expense? Immigration reform has been a subject everyone has a stake in, the question was always how to go about it. Apparently tearing families apart makes Trump's America feel safer?

-Bring back jobs to America?

Jobs have been "coming back" since Obama. The raw employment numbers don't tell the whole story such as jobs that pay above the poverty level, those working multiple part time jobs, recent college grads having to work jobs they are over qualified for...

-Take cuts for everyone?

Blow up the debt, mostly for the rich, and then try and grab social security to claim as a "balanced budget" solution.

-Out of horrible TPP

Now wants back in it

-Out of even worse Paris Accord scam

Not sure how this list is making him a great President, just a great President for his small base. That scam still participated in by the rest of the world as well as the most productive states in the US.

-Shot a missile into Syria so they knew we had a red line unlike Obama

Shot insignificant targets the first time, didn't end chemical strikes. Warned Russia and everyone else, they were coming the second time so they could properly prepare.

-Negotiating face to face with Kim Jung Un with pressure from China

Gave North Korea what they wanted, world standing they do not deserve (remember when you criticized Obama early in his Presidency for suggesting he would do the same thing?)

-Putting Russia on notice (quietly but he has)

Uh huh. You expelled how many diplomats! That's not what I wanted!

-Shutting off Cuba

Yes, because that was a pressing issue.

-Working on fixing trade imbalance with China

"Working"? Sure. More like getting played.

-Touting the military and police all the time

Unless they are investigating him or having to offer condolence calls or slandering McCain

-Lowest black unemployment in history

Was already going down when he took office and still doesn't address the general employment situation as noted above.

-Crime going down in Chicago finally after he warned he was sending in the Feds

OMG! You really believe that? So, its not about the internal outreach programs within the city starting to bear fruit, its because he made an empty and Unconstitutional threat to send in the Feds! Wow.

-GDP at 3%

I'll give him that for now even if the majority of the wealth still goes to the richest Americans.

-Coming out of horrible Iran deal

Yes, because we're safer on a more possible path to war

-Expose the mainstream media for the bias frauds they really are!

Don't know how this is more than a partisan observation. Seems like the exposing is going both ways.

-Punch back at his opponents unlike the weak spine RINO's and SWAMP creatures.

Yes, what a tough guy!

-Renegotiating NAFTA

Is that all done?

-Building the wall

Repairing the old wall.

-Stock market stability and growth

Umm, seems like we've had some pretty big corrections.

-Moving Israeli capital to Jeruselum

Jesus is coming back soon!

-Appointed Neil Gorsuch to Supreme Court and quietly has more conservative appointments going to district and federal courts than any POTUS in years.

Don't know how this is more than a partisan thing.

-Rolling back tons of over regulations including Dodd Frank that was PASSED legislatively

Yes, who needs that, when has deregulation ever steered us wrong?

Seems like a lot of things you listed divide us as a country: Judge appointments based on ideology, attacks on the environment for crony profit, immigration policy, punching back, funneling wealth to corporations and the wealthy. I'm not sure your definition of "country" is as inclusive as you think.
Interesting ending comments. Judges are always measured against ideology. Can you name a judge that was appointed were his or POV on key issues of the day were not in play? "Attacks on the environment....what you really mean is the heavy handed and un necessary radical enviro policies of the Obama era are gone and we have returned to some level of common sense. What is punching back? And the canard that the tax reform funneled money to corporations assumes that is bad?

Your post essentially says you loved the Obama 8 years and are ripped up with Trump undoing so much of it. Successfully.
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The ideology looked for in conservative judges is one of respect for the constitution wherever it leads relative to partisan politics. The ideology looked for in liberal judges is alignment with liberal partisan politics regardless of what the constitution says.
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The Clintons became significantly richer while Hillary was SoS and POTUS candidate, but her motives were pure and self-enrichment was just incidental and unintended.

I was worried about them when they left the WH penniless. Thank god they were able to get back on their feet.
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I actually could respect a liberal commentary on the Trump Presidency if they could make an argument that does not include slams at "middle America =dumb"; Trump being wealthy a symbol of bad. Poor white people who hate this or that....

Attacking the voters who voted for him is a bad look. The Hillary "deplorables" moniker probably put Trump in office by getting voters to the polls.
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I actually could respect a liberal commentary on the Trump Presidency if they could make an argument that does not include slams at "middle America =dumb"; Trump being wealthy a symbol of bad. Poor white people who hate this or that....

Attacking the voters who voted for him is a bad look. The Hillary "deplorables" moniker probably put Trump in office by getting voters to the polls.

I have never understood the leftist idea that "Rich people are bad". I would imagine that at least 50% of the rich are liberal elites - but apparently, they forget that.

Rich is good. Hell, we should all strive to be rich. Or, as my dear old departed Dad used to tell me "Son - Ever see a poor man offer anyone a job?"
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I have never understood the leftist idea that "Rich people are bad". I would imagine that at least 50% of the rich are liberal elites - but apparently, they forget that.

Rich is good. Hell, we should all strive to be rich. Or, as my dear old departed Dad used to tell me "Son - Ever see a poor man offer anyone a job?"
Sure don't see many folks aspiring to be homeless.
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