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Old 05-04-2018, 11:28 AM  
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Mueller slammed by Judge in Manfort Case

U.S. judge questions special counsel's powers in Manafort case

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (Reuters) - A federal judge on Friday sharply criticized Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s criminal case in Virginia against President Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and openly questioned whether Mueller exceeded his prosecutorial powers by bringing it.

“I don’t see what relationship this indictment has with anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III in the Eastern District of Virginia said.

At a tense hearing at the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia, the judge said Mueller should not have “unfettered power” in his Russia probe and that the charges against Manafort did not arise from the investigation into Moscow’s alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

“It’s unlikely you’re going to persuade me the special counsel has unfettered power to do whatever he wants,” said Ellis, who was appointed to the bench by Republican President Ronald Reagan.

Manafort is facing charges in both Virginia and Washington. The Virginia case charges him with offenses including tax and bank fraud.

The other case in Washington accuses him of conspiring to launder money and failing to register as a foreign agent when he lobbied for the pro-Russia Ukrainian government.

None of the charges relate, however, to Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign or possible collusion with Russia. Trump has denied any collusion.

Manafort’s attorney Kevin Downing has argued that the charges must dismissed because the FBI investigation dates back to 2014, and therefore did not arise from Mueller’s probe.

The bulk of Friday’s questions by the judge were aimed squarely at Michael Dreeben, the deputy solicitor general who is currently working in Mueller’s office.

While Dreeben conceded that Mueller had inherited the probe into Manafort after his May 2017 appointment by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, he insisted the office is on solid legal ground and has the power to proceed with prosecuting the case.

“Our investigative scope does cover the activity” in the indictment,” Dreeben told the judge.

“Cover bank fraud in 2005 and 2007? Tell me how!” Ellis retorted.

Friday marked the third time now that Manafort has tried to get the charges against him dropped.

He first filed a civil case alleging the Justice Department’s order appointing Mueller was overly broad in violation of Justice Department rules, but the case was tossed last month.

He is also seeking to get the Washington-based criminal charges against him dismissed on similar legal grounds that were presented to the Virginia judge on Friday.

The federal judge in Washington, Amy Berman Jackson, has not yet ruled on the request to dismiss that indictment.

Friday, however, marked the first time that Manafort’s arguments about the scope of Mueller’s powers appeared to have gained some traction.

During the oral arguments, Ellis repeatedly chided Mueller’s $10 million budget.

He also asked whether Rosenstein, who oversees the probe and is considered an important witness into whether Trump tried to obstruct justice, is recused from the case.

And he repeatedly claimed that the indictment appeared to serve as a way for Mueller to “assert leverage” over Manafort.

“The vernacular,” he said “is to sing.”

Ellis did not issue a ruling on Manafort’s motion to dismiss the indictment Friday.


But he asked why a run-of-the-mill bank fraud case with no “reference to any Russian individual or Russian bank” could not be handed over to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Eastern District of Virginia.

As an example, he pointed to the FBI’s probe into Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen, and mused that the special counsel had turned that matter over to prosecutors in Manhattan.

Dreeben declined to discuss the Cohen case, but said that Mueller’s probe into Manafort was authorized by Rosenstein.

Rosenstein’s May 2017 order laying out the scope of the probe, he told the judge, did not reveal all the details because they involve sensitive national security and counterintelligence matters that could not be divulged publicly, but were conveyed to Mueller.

Ellis balked, saying Dreeben’s answer essentially means the Justice Department was “not really telling the truth” about the probe and invites someone to respond by saying, “Come on, man!”

Dreeben also stressed that Rosenstein wrote another memo two months later, in August 2017, explicitly granting Mueller the power to investigate Manafort’s Ukraine dealings years before the 2016 election.

Ellis complained that the bulk of that August memo he has received was highly redacted.

He directed Mueller’s office to take two weeks to consult with U.S. intelligence agencies to see if they will sign off so that he can personally review a sealed, unredacted version of the memo.

Dreeben told him the redacted portions did not pertain to the Manafort case.

“I’ll be the judge,” Ellis said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1I51WE
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:24 PM   #76
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Depends how the appeal would go...it would be a setback to be sure, but given the breadth of other issues it won't be going anytime soon unless Trump fires him and/or Rosenstein.
There will not be an appeal. The DOJ in Virginia would have the decision to go forward with the prosecution. It just will not be Mueller.
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:25 PM   #77
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:26 PM   #78
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I'm not sure you understand the ramifications of a dismissal of charges for the reasons the judge was stating/implying.

Or, to put it another way, if the case is dismissed based upon what the judge was talking against, Mueller becomes a candidate for immediate dismissal, as does Rosenstein.
Yup, it would mean that because Mueller hasn't been able to find anything involving Russia etc... the investigation is over and the court is not going to allow Mueller or anyone else "unfettered power" as he put it to keep digging into stuff that has no bearing on the original investigation.

Seems Mueller has a history of this sort of thing and consequence.
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:30 PM   #79
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There are 3 prominent issues this Judge brought up. One can be very impacting and may gain traction quick. The other two are related but will most likely not change anything or could change things going forward.


1. Why hasn't Rosenstein recused himself? He is a witness of a probe he is overseeing. I think this one, in and of itself, is going to cause problems for Mr. Rosenstein. It has been discussed among the talking heads but now it has been officially questioned in court.

Any testimony provided by Rosenstein can and most likely will immediately discredited and tossed because he obvious has a conflict. I am not even sure if it's legal for him to be a witness of an investigation he is overseeing.

2 & 3. The scope of power. Probably won't help Manafort but the "why didn't you hand off Manafort the way you did Cohen?" is a legitimate question that could impact how Mueller handles things going forward.
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:32 PM   #80
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I'm not sure you understand the ramifications of a dismissal of charges for the reasons the judge was stating/implying.

Or, to put it another way, if the case is dismissed based upon what the judge was talking against, Mueller becomes a candidate for immediate dismissal, as does Rosenstein.
Rosenstein may be on his way out anyway. The Judge essentially just gave Trump cover to fire his ass. Or at least force him to recuse himself.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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The prog zombies sure do hate it when their overseersers' game plan for the destruction of America runs into a judge who actually gives a shit about the rule of law.
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:38 PM   #82
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The prog zombies sure do hate it when their overseersers' game plan for the destruction of America runs into a judge who actually gives a shit about the rule of law.
And it isn't like this is the first time Mueller has been caught or called out for this kind of shit. The guy has a history of being a douche and so does his key prosecutor. They have send innocent people to jail, ruined the lives of 10's of thousands of people and do it knowingly and without care.

They want a scalp. Period.
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:45 PM   #83
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We know for a fact the Muller has sent at least 5 innocent people to prison and cost the tax payers over $100mil for doing so.

Mueller is dirty pool. Don't buy the bullshit hype. The establishment wants him because the establishment doesn't want Trump.
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:47 PM   #84
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I'll just leave this tidbit here...

Neither Comey nor Mueller—who are reported to be “joined at the hip”—deserve their current lionization among politicians and mainstream media. Instead of Jimmy Stewart-like ‘G-men’ with reputations for principled integrity, the two close confidants and collaborators merely proved themselves, along with former CIA Director George “Slam Dunk” Tenet, reliably politicized sycophants, enmeshing themselves in a series of wrongful abuses of power along with official incompetence.

It seems clear that based on his history and close “partnership” with Comey, “one of the closest working relationships the top ranks of the Justice Department have ever seen,” Mueller was chosen as Special Counsel not because he has integrity but because he will do what the powerful want him to do. He didn’t speak the truth about a war he knew to be unjustified. He didn’t speak out against torture. He didn’t speak out against unconstitutional surveillance. And he didn’t tell the truth about 9/11. He is just their man.

Coleen Rowley, a retired FBI special agent and division legal counsel whose May 2002 memo to then-FBI Director Robert Mueller exposed some of the FBI’s pre-9/11 failures, was named one of TIME magazine’s “Persons of the Year” in 2002. Her 2003 letter to Robert Mueller in opposition to launching the Iraq War is archived in full text on the NYT and her 2013 op-ed entitled “Questions for the FBI Nominee” was published on the day of James Comey’s confirmation hearing. This piece will also be cross-posted on Consortiumnews.com.
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:55 PM   #85
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Sounds like this judge hasn't read Rosenstein's appointment letter. Or has and didn't do a very good job of understanding it.
Actually it sounds like he did.
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Depends how the appeal would go...it would be a setback to be sure, but given the breadth of other issues it won't be going anytime soon unless Trump fires him and/or Rosenstein.

The "issues" really are the key point of interest at this point.

- Judge Ellis demanded today that Mueller un-redact the August 2, 2017 instructions from AAG Rosenstein. That removal will expose the use of the FISA Title-1 warrant use that drove the investigative origin (probable cause).

> This sets-up the next issue Mueller' team will be confronted with:

- the Title 1 FISA warrant and the basis of it’s issuance (Probable Cause to conduct a criminal investigation).


> Mueller is essentially a “Special Counsel” in a Counter-Intelligence investigation, not a criminal investigation at all. This actually makes sense because they have never stated the supposed crime that is to be investigated, which is required pursuant to the DOJ regulations.

This is why Comey’s “continuing investigation” language/testimony is cited in the authorization memo, as well.

They created Mueller to continue independently and secretively what they could no longer conduct through “normal” mechanisms.

Are you aware of any such a thing as a "counter-intelligence Special Counsel" authorized by any statute or regulation?

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Old 05-04-2018, 03:49 PM   #87
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The "issues" really are the key point of interest at this point.

- Judge Ellis demanded today that Mueller un-redact the August 2, 2017 instructions from AAG Rosenstein. That removal will expose the use of the FISA Title-1 warrant use that drove the investigative origin (probable cause).

> This sets-up the next issue Mueller' team will be confronted with:

- the Title 1 FISA warrant and the basis of it’s issuance (Probable Cause to conduct a criminal investigation).


> Mueller is essentially a “Special Counsel” in a Counter-Intelligence investigation, not a criminal investigation at all. This actually makes sense because they have never stated the supposed crime that is to be investigated, which is required pursuant to the DOJ regulations.

This is why Comey’s “continuing investigation” language/testimony is cited in the authorization memo, as well.

They created Mueller to continue independently and secretively what they could no longer conduct through “normal” mechanisms.

Are you aware of any such a thing as a "counter-intelligence Special Counsel" authorized by any statute or regulation?

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We know for a fact the Muller has sent at least 5 innocent people to prison and cost the tax payers over $100mil for doing so.

Mueller is dirty pool. Don't buy the bullshit hype. The establishment wants him because the establishment doesn't want Trump.
If smearing Mueller is fair game, which is what you and other Trumpists have been doing for months now, then why is it not okay for Lone to question the character and integrity of a judge who he doesn't like?

Seems like you want it both ways here.
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If smearing Mueller is fair game, which is what you and other Trumpists have been doing for months now, then why is it not okay for Lone to question the character and integrity of a judge who he doesn't like?

Seems like you want it both ways here.
You're assuming logical consistency means anything to Trumpers.
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If smearing Mueller is fair game, which is what you and other Trumpists have been doing for months now, then why is it not okay for Lone to question the character and integrity of a judge who he doesn't like?

Seems like you want it both ways here.
No one said he could not. But it does not mean we can not laugh st his absurd conspiracy involving the Judge and Trump.
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