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Old 04-17-2018, 02:26 AM  
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Correlations Between Punting and Defense and Punting and Winning

Well, you guys think I'm a nut... So here it is, the data you've all been waiting so patiently for. I've included the Excel Workbook I used. the 20##P tabs are punting stats, the 20##D are defensive stats with correlations to punting, and the 20##WL tabs are W/L records with correlations to punting. I even made a sheet with all the glorious data in one spot.

There is no strong correlation between having a good punter and how good an NFL defense is and there is no strong correlation between having a good punter and win percentage. So, next time you want to defend a contract to a punter for millions per year, I'm going to tell you that you're an idiot. So long as a punter is NFL caliber, he's simply good enough.

Below are the correlation coefficients. I'll leave it to you folks to pour through the rest of it on your own.

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Old 04-17-2018, 10:17 AM   #16
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Yes I do, but an inch clearly wasnít going to make or break Hill after seeing his natural ability in 2016, and I would never flat out write somebody off because of it.
It just makes it tougher on someone to have to be an outlier because of a physical attribute.
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:20 AM   #17
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So, I do have issue here.

Just because they're paying one position peanuts doesn't mean it's still not an issue to overpay another spot that doesn't necessarily bring value.

You could pay your kicker and punter less and use that money for a different spot that makes a bigger difference.

I think it's obvious however, that the front office and coaching staff here value the punter more than Kccrow does, but that doesn't make it wrong
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Kccrow’s philosophy and I get it, but he described us re-signing Colquitt as a “colossal” mistake, which is a ridiculous exaggeration.
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:22 AM   #18
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Yeah, I wouldn't go that far
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:25 AM   #19
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Yeah, I wouldn't go that far
Then heís calling you an idiot too lol
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:27 AM   #20
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All bullshit aside, I like Kccrow and what he brings to the board, so I don’t want to come off like a dick. Thanks for putting in all the work you do man!
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:31 AM   #21
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Yeah, I'm trying to remember the last good team to have a shitty punter though?
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Old 04-17-2018, 12:12 PM   #22
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Any team with a good enough Offense couldn't give much of a shit about the punter
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Old 04-17-2018, 02:42 PM   #23
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Yeah, I'm trying to remember the last good team to have a shitty punter though?
Data is hard to read on the board, which is why I didn't post it, but here's a sample from 2017.
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Iím sorry, but saying that Hillís height was going to be the thing that kept him from being a good WR at that point was retarded.
There are very few exceptions to 5'10" being the cutoff point for effective NFL receivers playing on the outside. Even in the slot, there aren't that many exceptions. Either way, I don't think I said anything specific about Hill other than the fact he's a douchebag for what he did to his girlfriend.
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Old 04-17-2018, 02:55 PM   #25
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He said we were paying Colquitt 4 mil per year and continues to act like thatís the case, which is false. His contract is 12th for Punters. Not that bad at all.

He just annoys me sometimes because he thinks he knows more than the pros when heís just another idiot on a message board like us, hence me bringing up his stupid take on Hill.
I said 4 million before the contract data got posted to OTC, and I still consider it stupid to sign a punter for anything more than minimums.

You don't like my takes, then go quote the idiots at PFF that are nothing more than a bunch of Brittish douchebags sitting behind a computer desk, eating nachos and haven't so much as even played the game.

Better yet, block me. I'll be blocking your ass.
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All bullshit aside, I like Kccrow and what he brings to the board, so I donít want to come off like a dick. Thanks for putting in all the work you do man!
**** off.
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You’re such a ****ing pussy

I should’ve known you couldn’t handle it. Didn’t you threaten to leave forever because somebody hurt your feelings?

Your talent evaluation skills suck ass anyways. I was just trying to be nice.
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Old 04-17-2018, 03:14 PM   #28
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Youíre such a ****ing pussy

I shouldíve known you couldnít handle it. Didnít you threaten to leave forever because somebody hurt your feelings?

Your talent evaluation skills suck ass anyways. I was just trying to be nice.
Look an internet tough guy. I can 100% guarantee you wouldn't say this to my face, but then of course you don't have a clue who I am or what I look like and that's probably a good thing in your favor.

You're just another dumbass piece of shit that doesn't bring anything of quality to this board, but sure likes to prance around calling everyone else's shit garbage. Dumbass mother****er.
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Look an internet tough guy. I can 100% guarantee you wouldn't say this to my face, but then of course you don't have a clue who I am or what I look like and that's probably a good thing in your favor

You're just another dumbass piece of shit that doesn't bring anything of quality to this board, but sure likes to prance around calling everyone else's shit garbage. Dumbass mother****er.
I’m the internet tough guy? That’s ironic considering what you followed that up with. This is the second time I’ve heard you talk about fighting after you got your feelings hurt on CP, hence why I’m calling you a pussy. Who lets a stranger on a football forum get them so butthurt?

You talking like you’re the baddest mother****er on the planet (no pun intended) is absolutely hilarious though. Real badasses know there’s always somebody badder. That’s how I know you’re full of shit.

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