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Old 01-31-2017, 09:01 PM  
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I don't recall seeing anything on here about the hobby. Do you do it? Have any interest? Tools? Have you made anything? Do you want to learn?

With the recent developments on the Planet, it got me thinking, what can I do to contribute and support the new effort?

I had no problem with any of the old guard and want to support the effort to make Chiefs Planet great again with the regime.


They aren't teaching vocational training in high school anymore, but maybe we can provide a venue here to learn woodworking?

There is a handyman mega thread, but this deserves it's own thread if we are going to accomplish something.

When I went to Junior high school we had woodworking class and I have always loved it. Finally, upon retirement, I have been able to set up a nice woodwork shop. I can go from station to station and perform the particular task, planing, jointer, sander, router table, radial arm, table and band saw.

I am currently on my fifth cedar chest this winter. Each one has gotten much easier as I have learned.

We have a cedar mill about ten miles away so it has been very instrumental in the effort as raw material is the main ingredient. It is dirt cheap at the mill and I have been buying 1.1 inch thick by 52 long by 4.25 wide boards and gluing them together.

What are you working on?
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Old 02-02-2017, 07:24 PM   #121
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Oh, the way I read it is that you were wetsanding the wood before stain, which wouldn't make any sense but I didn't want to be an asshole.
Yeah, that would be kind of silly, sorry for being so unclear. I even give the thinner wipe extra time to dry before finish.

I actually don't really like to use stain at all and prefer the natural color.

I am going to play around with some staining on this white oak though just to see how it comes out.
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Old 02-02-2017, 08:39 PM   #122
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Yeah, that would be kind of silly, sorry for being so unclear. I even give the thinner wipe extra time to dry before finish.

I actually don't really like to use stain at all and prefer the natural color.

I am going to play around with some staining on this white oak though just to see how it comes out.
I just finished 2 white oak floors today! One has Special Walnut stain and the other is Early American.

I like white oak better than red. For one, the grain is usually a little tighter, two, the color is is more of a neutral brown instead of a redish color to start.


Little known fact: Most prefinished oak floor is white oak, not red even though red is a lot more popular for everything else.
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Old 02-02-2017, 09:03 PM   #123
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I like to build things out of wood, but I'm a shit finish carpenter. I've built some pine log beds with my brothers and build things out of old stuff more than the fine quality finished things I've seen from some of you over the years.

My power tools for woodwork are old and sad. I don't have half of what I need to do things the right way for finishing wood.

The coolest thing I've worked on was a project for a mentor...I helped him build a wooden canoe made of 1" strips of wood.

My next two planned projects are barn wood related. I plan to build a chandelier for our table and I'm debating between a design using old barn wood, making a shadow box with a flat, rough piece with wires hanging old jars over LED lights or one made with barn trolleys and a couple of old lanterns. Wiring them right is my biggest concern because I'm worse with electricity than fine cut corners.

I also am planning a "railroad cart" style table. I cut some large cat iron wheels off an old safe and want to built a barn wood coffee table out of that.

Additional projects I'd like to do include a free hanging mantle for a large bland wall made out of rough cut beams or old barn beams. I'm also planning to fire up the welder and do some shitty welding to make some 2-3' dinosaurs out of a big pile of old rust wrenches I've picked up along the way.


Maybe I'm just better at these projects because they're supposed to look like hell on the corners.
That barn wood stuff is hot! I ****ed up when I gave a bunch of it away just wanting it gone and out of my way! It was true old Nebraska barn 1 inch thick material. I bet you have access to a lot of it up there, right?

I am 100% convinced that your finished product is going to be related to your tool capability multiplied by how much time you have.

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I just finished 2 white oak floors today! One has Special Walnut stain and the other is Early American.

I like white oak better than red. For one, the grain is usually a little tighter, two, the color is is more of a neutral brown instead of a redish color to start.


Little known fact: Most prefinished oak floor is white oak, not red even though red is a lot more popular for everything else.
That has to be quite a challenge doing those natural floors. Do you buy it from places like lumber liquidators?
I wish we hadn't have gone with laminate in 2012 when we built this place, but that was all we could swing. It isn't holding up for shit here on the lake.
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:59 PM   #124
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Cool thread. I used to have lotsa tools. Laid my wood floor and then made chairs out of the leftovers. My granddad made his own grandfather clocks. I took after him.

Was the teachers assistant in wood shop in high school. Sucks my kid didn't get this class. He enjoys helping me build stuff around the house. Just finished a barn door project to the bathroom.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:04 PM   #125
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That has to be quite a challenge doing those natural floors. Do you buy it from places like lumber liquidators?
I wish we hadn't have gone with laminate in 2012 when we built this place, but that was all we could swing. It isn't holding up for shit here on the lake.
I have been doing it so long it's like breathing.

I use the best equipment made. Lagler Hummel Belt Sanders, Lagler Trios, Clarke 7R edgers, etc.


I purchase all my product from distributors in KC, Springfield, OKC, Seattle, and Denver. I get Acacia product out of Atlanta.


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Old 02-04-2017, 07:32 AM   #127
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Cool thread. I used to have lotsa tools. Laid my wood floor and then made chairs out of the leftovers. My granddad made his own grandfather clocks. I took after him.

Was the teachers assistant in wood shop in high school. Sucks my kid didn't get this class. He enjoys helping me build stuff around the house. Just finished a barn door project to the bathroom.
Would love to see pictures! I think it is a travesty they aren't teaching these skills anymore to our youth.



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What kind of wood did you use? Pictures?

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I have been doing it so long it's like breathing.

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I purchase all my product from distributors in KC, Springfield, OKC, Seattle, and Denver. I get Acacia product out of Atlanta.


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Beautiful work! I have hardly a clue how the current wood floors are done. Are they "tongue and groove?"
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Would love to see pictures! I think it is a travesty they aren't teaching these skills anymore to our youth.





What kind of wood did you use? Pictures?

Beautiful work! I have hardly a clue how the current wood floors are done. Are they "tongue and groove?"
Yep. The only difference now compared to 1969 and earlier is that heavy staples or L cleats are used instead of nails. We also use pneumatic nailers.

It amazes me how much patience the old guys had putting in floor with a hammer and nails.
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Yep. The only difference now compared to 1969 and earlier is that heavy staples or L cleats are used instead of nails. We also use pneumatic nailers.

It amazes me how much patience the old guys had putting in floor with a hammer and nails.
I am going to google L cleats.

Those nailers have changed a lot in a fairly short period of time. I had a 24x24 garage built in 1985, for $2400. They used hammer and nails, in fact I still have half a huge box of 16 penny nails left over from their build.

When we had the construction done here in 2012, it was all electric and pneumatic nailers. I get pissed every time I look at two of the decks as they didn't used screws, bolts or lags, just a lot of ****ing nails. Lots of them.
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Wow, they used nails on a deck?


Lazy. It takes a second longer to run a screw ffs.
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I would lose my shit if someone built me a deck with nails.
I did, and I am the bad guy from Chicago that comes down here expecting things to be the same as they are up there. I spent a lot of money with that contractor and he has one of the best reps around. Not with me.

I have put actual bolts and lag bolts in the back deck where the runners attach to the uprights. He had about a dozen nails where they joined.

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Wow, they used nails on a deck?


Lazy. It takes a second longer to run a screw ffs.
Exactly. I have been replacing them with screws as I have time. Flipping the decking boards over as the nails damage them. The upstairs deck railing that is now four years old and is not safe IMO and I am going to have to put bolts where the uprights attach to the sides.

I am coming to the conclusion that it is the way they do things around here. Half assed and close is good enough.
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I did, and I am the bad guy from Chicago that comes down here expecting things to be the same as they are up there. I spent a lot of money with that contractor and he has one of the best reps around. Not with me.

I have put actual bolts and lag bolts in the back deck where the runners attach to the uprights. He had about a dozen nails where they joined.



Exactly. I have been replacing them with screws as I have time. Flipping the decking boards over as the nails damage them. The upstairs deck railing that is now four years old and is not safe IMO and I am going to have to put bolts where the uprights attach to the sides.

I am coming to the conclusion that it is the way they do things around here. Half assed and close is good enough.
I'd have wrecked his shit man. That is completely and totally unacceptable.
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I'd have wrecked his shit man. That is completely and totally unacceptable.
Yeah. He would have been lucky if he wasn't there when I saw it.

He would have started over or we would have had major issues.
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Enjoying this thread a lot. Ive been a woodworker for a long time but have sort of drifted away. I have a shop building and a buttload of great wood. I need to get my ass back to building stuff and off the couch. Ive built baby cradles, a beautiful Walnut Wardrobe I copied from the Amana Furniture shop one, all my kitchen cabinets in my kitchen at the farm, and a bunch of furniture for the wife.

Now that I have a new computer with decent memory, I need to organize pics of stuff I have built.
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