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Old 11-04-2014, 11:33 AM  
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Rank the Chiefs needs

In your opinion. What are your top 4 needs and why? (we have 4 picks in the top 3 rounds)

I'm gonna say in order of importance:

1. OL-Stephenson looked good last Sunday, but LG is terrible. IMO this is what is destroying our offense. No time to throw, no time for receivers to go deep or finish long routes, some problems in the running game (our RB's make to look way better though).

La'El Collins would solidify the left side IMO. He's a beast.

2. Receiver-we have 4 good weapons IMO: Kelce, DAT, Bowe and Charles. It doesn't even have to be a top WR. It could be a TE like Kelce. Get one more quality receiver bc Fasano and every WR after Bowe (except maybe Wilson. He's making the most of his opportunity) sucks.

Owen Daniels would be a solid FA pickup. He was only $1 million this season.

3. DB-sure we have some good guys there, but Abdullah and Parker are nearing 30. Sanders Commings is made of glass so a young safety to add would be helpful.
The Prewitt kid from Ole Miss is awesome, but we would most likely have to get him rd 1.

Is CB a huge need? Sean Smith has been very good this year. Gaines just needs to add strength and he'll be a fine #2 at this pace, Owens did well playing nickel and Cooper is here to develop. That's 4 guys. I'd take a mid rd guy to develop behind them.

4. Pass rusher-we add one every year and will again. Bailey should stay and we have Walker, but insurance for Cat could be needed.

I think we will draft an OLB for depth to prepare for Tamba's departure whether he stays or goes. I'd like to get one rd 3 in the event that we have a future stud to rotate with Ford/Houston and be ready if either gets hurt.

Thoughts?
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Old 11-05-2014, 01:42 PM   #31
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So you're planning to cut Jeff Allen, another 2nd rounder? What about LDT?

I don't get this obsession with left guard when the Chiefs need receivers, CB's, Defensive lineman and at least one ILB case Mauga can't be re-signed and DJ doesn't recover to at least 90%.
Can't speak for the others, but the only reason I had them drafting a LG so high was bc of Reid's infatuation with the trenches in the 1st rd.
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Old 11-05-2014, 02:57 PM   #32
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I've got a gut feeling that we dump Fasano and draft a TE with one of our first 3 picks. Alex loves TE's and we can run the 3 TE set more effectively. Kelce is the only damn threat we have as a receiver at the position.

Imagine getting another player with skills like him?
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I would imagine the Chiefs will take a Tight End with one of their 3rd or 4th round selections. I really liked Crockett Gilmore in the 4th but he went to Baltimore at #99.

That said, I'd rather have Phillip Gaines and DAT than a backup TE.
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Old 11-05-2014, 03:39 PM   #33
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The title of this thread should be changed to "Rank the positions that Dorsey won't draft in 2015"

Only joking, but just slightly. We will have 11 picks next year, so don't expect Dorsey to follow shit in terms of team need.

We'll probably get our new WR next year, but it might not happen until the 2nd or even 3rd round.
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Old 11-05-2014, 03:52 PM   #34
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The title of this thread should be changed to "Rank the positions that Dorsey won't draft in 2015"

Only joking, but just slightly. We will have 11 picks next year, so don't expect Dorsey to follow shit in terms of team need.

We'll probably get our new WR next year, but it might not happen until he finds some team's reject of another team's rejects.
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:04 PM   #35
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The title of this thread should be changed to "Rank the positions that Dorsey won't draft in 2015"

Only joking, but just slightly. We will have 11 picks next year, so don't expect Dorsey to follow shit in terms of team need.

We'll probably get our new WR next year, but it might not happen until the 2nd or even 3rd round.
I completely agree.

Dorsey really seems to be a "Best Available Athlete" type. I prefer that to reaching for players and he's done a great job to date.

I can't wait to see what he does with 11 picks, which is as almost as many as he's had the past two drafts.
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:20 PM   #36
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I wanted Josh Huff in the middle rounds, not the 1st. And have you even watched how the Saints have used Cooks? Lots of short stuff to get him out in space just like Reid uses DAT in the passing game. Got the exact same thing in Thomas, just at much better value.

So you're saying Cooks sucks at getting YAC?
Cooks is light years ahead of DAT.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:24 PM   #37
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So you're planning to cut Jeff Allen, another 2nd rounder? What about LDT?

I don't get this obsession with left guard when the Chiefs need receivers, CB's, Defensive lineman and at least one ILB case Mauga can't be re-signed and DJ doesn't recover to at least 90%.
I'm not planning on anything.

All I know is that the defense as it is right now is playing like one of the best in the league and everyone but Hudson on the line is complete ****ing trash and everyone but Bowe at WR is complete ****ing trash.

I don't care who they draft or where. Those are just how I rank the team needs.
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I'll stick to top four as the OP states...

1. Wide Receiver

I know, this offense doesn't NEED stud receivers to function, but this offense doesn't possess any type of real threat at the position. The Chiefs really cannot even remotely think about the ability to come from behind and strike quickly without some type of reliable down field threat. They don't have to go WR in round 1, but it should be very early, and probably multiple times, in this draft.

2. Offensive Guard

Everyone is currently giddy over Zach Fulton, and he could become something, but he's not yet. Additionally, the left side is an absolute garbage turnstile. Allen is supposed to return in 2015, but I'd rather he didn't... McGlynn is even worse. How the Chiefs have managed with such atrocious guard play is beyond me.

3. Inside Linebacker

Derrick Johnson's career may very well be over, especially in Kansas City. An Achilles injury is usually a two year deal. While he may be able to play in 2015, it likely won't be the form we've become accustomed to over the past few years. Additionally, his cap savings may be needed, and he's on the wrong side of 30.

Meanwhile, Mays hasn't been available and the Chiefs have survived, but he also gives the Chiefs a decent cap savings if cut in 2015. After Mays, you have guys the Chiefs have lived with in Mauga and JMJohnson, but they have been a rather significant liability in run defense. The Chiefs should address this situation and bring in a youngster that shows promise of being the long-term solution.

4. Cornerback

Sean Smith will be under contract in 2015, but it is his final year of his deal. Additionally, Smith hasn't been that great until this year where he is finally playing fairly respectable. The Chiefs might have to make a decision on him as well this offseason, given he offers a very nice cap savings.

Gaines has proven to be the type of player I thought he was so far and continues to improve. It normally takes corners a couple years to really come into their own. The Chiefs would be wise to draft Smith's replacement in 2015 and groom him. Gaines and another draft pick could give KC a solid set of corners for a while.
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If the Chiefs go guard early, I will kill a hamster. Kccrow's hamster.

They can go tackle if they want, since they'll actually need one in 2016. But considering they have all sorts of options at guard, I will seriously kill kccrow's hamster.
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I'm not planning on anything.

All I know is that the defense as it is right now is playing like one of the best in the league and everyone but Hudson on the line is complete ****ing trash and everyone but Bowe at WR is complete ****ing trash.

I don't care who they draft or where. Those are just how I rank the team needs.
Fisher is trash? Ryan Harris and Donald Stephenson are "trash"? A rookie 6th rounder is trash?

I think we're watching two different teams.
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I'll stick to top four as the OP states...

1. Wide Receiver

I know, this offense doesn't NEED stud receivers to function, but this offense doesn't possess any type of real threat at the position. The Chiefs really cannot even remotely think about the ability to come from behind and strike quickly without some type of reliable down field threat. They don't have to go WR in round 1, but it should be very early, and probably multiple times, in this draft.

2. Offensive Guard

Everyone is currently giddy over Zach Fulton, and he could become something, but he's not yet. Additionally, the left side is an absolute garbage turnstile. Allen is supposed to return in 2015, but I'd rather he didn't... McGlynn is even worse. How the Chiefs have managed with such atrocious guard play is beyond me.

3. Inside Linebacker

Derrick Johnson's career may very well be over, especially in Kansas City. An Achilles injury is usually a two year deal. While he may be able to play in 2015, it likely won't be the form we've become accustomed to over the past few years. Additionally, his cap savings may be needed, and he's on the wrong side of 30.

Meanwhile, Mays hasn't been available and the Chiefs have survived, but he also gives the Chiefs a decent cap savings if cut in 2015. After Mays, you have guys the Chiefs have lived with in Mauga and JMJohnson, but they have been a rather significant liability in run defense. The Chiefs should address this situation and bring in a youngster that shows promise of being the long-term solution.

4. Cornerback

Sean Smith will be under contract in 2015, but it is his final year of his deal. Additionally, Smith hasn't been that great until this year where he is finally playing fairly respectable. The Chiefs might have to make a decision on him as well this offseason, given he offers a very nice cap savings.

Gaines has proven to be the type of player I thought he was so far and continues to improve. It normally takes corners a couple years to really come into their own. The Chiefs would be wise to draft Smith's replacement in 2015 and groom him. Gaines and another draft pick could give KC a solid set of corners for a while.
This is really rather perfect. I'd suggest an additional mention of DE/DT. Have to see if Bailey or Vickerson comes back.. and see if Catapano recovers from the ebolaids. Also thinking it might be best to cut the wasted signing of Vance Walker.. if he never shows a reason to earn his 3.75 cap hit next season.
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The life of kccrow's hamster is in the balance.

If the Chiefs go guard early, that's all she wrote, folks.
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Cooks is light years ahead of DAT.
He better be, he's been playing WR for far longer.

DAT has better vision as a runner and is just as explosive and shifty. His hands have been pretty solid as well.
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Looking at players last night...

Man oh man if this team could get Sammie Coates and Nick O'Leary in the first 2 rds than this offense would be hell for DC's to gameplan against.
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