NFL Draft No elite in this draft. - Page 13

Chief Roundup · 11-01-2012, 08:42 AM

According to Todd McShay and Mel Kiper there is not an elite QB in this draft. They went on to say that there wasn't an elite LT, DE or pass rusher either.
After seeing this I thought I needed to share.

So we finally are going to have a top pick if not the top pick and there is not elite talent available for us to pick from. How frigging depressing.
We should of drafted Tannehill last year like I wanted. We would be in a position to draft Manti Te'O. The best player in the draft this season.

Chief Roundup · 11-02-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why would Miami make that trade?

They probably wouldn't have. But the Jags would of and it was said that a 3rd round would of gotten us that pick ahead of the Dolphins.

Woodchuck · 11-02-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I already answered the ****ing question you ****ing reerun.

Yes, I would be pissed as **** at Marc Ross for passing on a QB.

Thank you.

In my opinion, it starts at the top and if getting a good GM canidate comes down to not taking a QB first, I am all for it. This is all hypothetical of course.

Every problem the Chiefs have right now stems from Pioli.

**RealSNR** · 11-02-2012, 11:06 AM

I was a fan of the Pioli hire. I thought at the very least he was an upgrade from Carl Peterson.

Part of the reason why is before Clark hired ANYBODY he did a press interview one-on-one with Mitch Holthus, in which he said, "Part of the change I want to bring to the organization is drafting and developing our own QB."

I thought for sure that Pioli would be a part of that plan, in addition to carrying out all the fancy shit on his wonderful resume. Coupled with the start we already got in the 2008 draft, I was pretty ****ing excited.

Then he traded for Matt Cassel. That's when doubt started to set in. Then the Tyson Jackson pick.

I didn't fully turn my back on him 100% until last year's 0-2 start. But the seeds of despair were planted in a matter of mere weeks in the form of the Cassel trade and the 2009 draft.

If Marc Ross does the same thing to my favorite team in all of sports, I'm not going to waste my time like I did with Pioli. I will be irate.

Chief Roundup · 11-02-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

If the general consensus amongst GMs is that these QBs suck and Clark requires our new GM to take a QB #1 overall, we are going to get a GM that is in over his head and isn't ready for the job.

Well I am not sure I would want a GM that would look at this team and not define its biggest need and most immediate way to improve directly through the QB position. 2cd only to coaching.

Woodchuck · 11-02-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Well I am not sure I would want a GM that would look at this team and not define its biggest need and most immediate way to improve directly through the QB position. 2cd only to coaching.

Even if it severly limited the number of canidates that were willing to take the job?

**RealSNR** · 11-02-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

Thank you.

In my opinion, it starts at the top and if getting a good GM canidate comes down to not taking a QB first, I am all for it. This is all hypothetical of course.

Every problem the Chiefs have right now stems from Pioli.

Agreed. And what is the indisputably best way to resurrect a football team?

Franchise QB.

And what's the best way to find a franchise QB?

Draft one in the first round.

If Ross disagrees, then he thinks just like Pioli.

2008 had no surefire top QB prospects. Matt Ryan, however, was pretty good.

Do you think the Dolphins are thanking their lucky stars that they went with Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan? Even as Jake Long is a damn fine LT?

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

Even if it severly limited the number of canidates that were willing to take the job?

JFC.

**BossChief** · 11-02-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why would Miami make that trade?

The point to trade to wasn't with Miami at 8...it was with the Rams at 6.

They were OPENLY shopping the pick and only took a middle 2nd round pick from Dallas to move all the way down to 17.

We could have moved up to 6 with a third rounder, most likely...but **** it, lets say we would have had to throw in our second rounder and got change back from the Rams...WHO CARES?

We had 2 interviews (1 at the combine and 1 personal interview) and 2 workouts with the kid...that to go along with plenty of tape of him and WE PASSED ON THE CHANCE TO TAKE HIM.

That kid is making Thanksgiving Dinner with all the trimmings out of chicken shit.

If I were the GM, I would have made every attempt to sign Orton (after trying to trade Cassel and if I couldn't get a ham sandwich, Id cut him) and made every attempt to move up to take Tannehill.

This training camp would have been a completely open competition for the starting spot.

suds79 · 11-02-2012, 11:18 AM

I swear Woodsponge Chuckpants just texted the Danny Parkins show.

I heard Cdot read "I think we should take Te'o and nab a QB in the 2nd round."

Because I mean really how many 90s Chiefs fans could be left who don't value QB? Just amazes me.

Chief Roundup · 11-02-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

Even if it severly limited the number of canidates that were willing to take the job?

Why would the list be limited let alone "severly limited"?
Because of the people the fans are mostly aware of?
Carl came from the USFL. Although he didn't lead us to the promise land he sure as hell got us turned around.
Clark should be able to form a very nice list.

PhillyChiefFan · 11-02-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

Even if it severly limited the number of canidates that were willing to take the job?

I'm pretty sure that Pioli is the ONLY GM in the country that would look at this team and say "Yes, we can win with Cassel/Quinn."

Any GM worth a sh*t would want to draft their own QB. If not because it's the only way forward for this team, but to stake their claim as Chiefs GM and seperate themselves from the train wreck Pioli turned this team into.

Pioli cannot claim ANY success in KC. None. His drafts were terrible, and his decisions sent this team backward. I would think any new GM would drool at the opportunity with the Chiefs, because let's face it...get us to a winning season or two and you're a hero. Hell most fans would be satisfied with a 1st RD QB.

Bewbies · 11-02-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

It might but, it's unlikely. Think about this for a minute. Clark is not a scout.

What if the reports about this class are true and GMs don't love the QBs. Who is going to want this job if Clark is making them take a QB that they feel would ultimately cause them to fail?

Just answer the original question please. Would you pissed if marc Ross didn't draft a QB with the #1 overall pick?

Who do you have more hope in? Marc Ross or Geno Smith?

You're ****ing reeruned. Who do you have more hope in, Tom Brady or Scott Pioli?

QB>GM by a country mile

Bewbies · 11-02-2012, 12:46 PM

After all these years there's still stupid ****ers that don't understand how important a QB really is. And where you draft the most important position on the field.

And if you have a chance to grab the best one in a specific year you don't take the best MLB and settle for the 3rd or 4th best QB.

**** ME IN THE GOATASS.

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-02-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I was a fan of the Pioli hire. I thought at the very least he was an upgrade from Carl Peterson.

Then he traded for Matt Cassel. That's when doubt started to set in. Then the Tyson Jackson pick.

I really didn't know enough to be against the cassel trade....It seemed like a gamble that might pay off (to me) because you wouldve thought Pioli would know Cassel better than anyone....

But in retrospect the worst part of the Cassel trade was not simnply giving up a second rounder...

In fact it wasn't even the big contract...

The worst thing was wasting all of these years on Cassel and possibly even building this unusual 4-3 defense that seems more reactionary than pressure proactive...

I'm beginning to question every single ****ing thing now.

I am giving in to the hate of this regime.

Help me before its too late.

Tell me something positive about this team...and why we won't suck for years more please.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 11-02-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

You're ****ing reeruned. Who do you have more hope in, Tom Brady or Scott Pioli?

QB>GM by a country mile

He's not stupid, he's just trolling for laughs.

11-01-2012, 08:42 AM
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11-02-2012, 11:18 AM	#189
suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	I swear Woodsponge Chuckpants just texted the Danny Parkins show. I heard Cdot read "I think we should take Te'o and nab a QB in the 2nd round." Because I mean really how many 90s Chiefs fans could be left who don't value QB? Just amazes me.
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Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $9999900	After all these years there's still stupid **ers that don't understand how important a QB really is. And where you draft the most important position on the field. And if you have a chance to grab the best one in a specific year you don't take the best MLB and settle for the 3rd or 4th best QB. ** ME IN THE GOATASS.
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