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Marco Polo · 01-02-2014, 04:53 PM

The Vikings organization and the NFL could be sued if any of this is true from the special teams coordinator.

I can't imagine the depths of lawsuits that would accrue if any leader in my organization said some of the things that the special teams coordinator said.

Not to turn this into a Duck Dynasty/religion conversation but you can have your opinion, you just can't say those vile things ("nuke it until it glows") while representing your organization.

http://deadspin.com/i-was-an-nfl-pla...208214#replies

mcaj22 · 01-02-2014, 06:21 PM

the difference is PR doesn't suck at what he does, his job, he's very good at being an entertainer on television.

Kluwe, actually isn't a good punter.

It's like if Jason Collins wrote to deadspin saying the New Jersey Nets wont sign him because Jason Kidd is a bigot. No, they probably won't because you are not a good player.

Sofa King · 01-02-2014, 06:27 PM

I don't think nearly enough people actually thought about what he said.... They're just here for the bashing.

Bewbies · 01-02-2014, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

So I take it you didn't read the article?

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If there's one thing I hope to achieve from sharing this story, it's to make sure that Mike Priefer never holds a coaching position again in the NFL, and ideally never coaches at any level. (According to the Pioneer Press, he is "the only in-house candidate with a chance" at the head-coaching job.) It's inexcusable that someone would use his status as a teacher and a role model to proselytize on behalf of his own doctrine of intolerance, and I hope he never gets another opportunity to pass his example along to anyone else.

No, I didn't see this paragraph either.

**LoneWolf** · 01-02-2014, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

the difference is PR doesn't suck at what he does, his job, he's very good at being an entertainer on television.

Kluwe, actually isn't a good punter.

It's like if Jason Collins wrote to deadspin saying the New Jersey Nets wont sign him because Jason Kidd is a bigot. No, they probably won't because you are not a good player.

He was good enough to hold a job as a punter in the NFL for eight seasons. You don't do that if you suck at punting.

Gravedigger · 01-02-2014, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

He says in the article that he waited until the Vikings season was over so that it didn't affect the friends he had on the Vikings during the season.

Yeah and that's bullshit. It doesn't matter if it was on the last day of the season or the Monday after.

Carlota69 · 01-02-2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

I like how he hopes to destroy someone's life simply because they disagree with him. 'Merica

Well, according to his story, there were people within the organization that wanted to destroy his life, putting him out of work, because they disagreed with him.

patteeu · 01-02-2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I just find it amazing that the people who defend Phil Robinson when he speaks his mind attack Kluwe for speaking his mind.

What about the reverse? Are you at least equally amazed by Phil Robertson's critics who defend Kluwe?

Phil Robinson wasn't repeatedly asked to stop making public comments by his employer. In fact, the product A&E purports to sell is the Phil Robinson reality. By contrast, the Vikings are only interested in Kluwe's ability to kick the ball.

Bewbies · 01-02-2014, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

He was good enough to hold a job as a punter in the NFL for eight seasons. You don't do that if you suck at punting.

If you look at all the dui's, domestic assaults, rapists, and even killing of people done by people who are signed by NFL teams after said crimes a guy speaking out on a political issue wouldn't be watching this season if people thought he was better than what they had.

mcaj22 · 01-02-2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

He was good enough to hold a job as a punter in the NFL for eight seasons. You don't do that if you suck at punting.

he fell off a cliff his last two years, they drafted a guy at 1/4 the price to do the same thing. It's a business. They did it the year before at kicker with Ryan Longwell and got Blair Walsh who made the Pro Bowl.

Gravedigger · 01-02-2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Promoting hate always makes a difference in our society. A negative one.

There's always going to be racism, there's always going to be hatred, there's always going to be terrorism, and there's always going to be the Denver Broncos. You can try to change it, but people are who they are, stay away from the one's you don't agree with and your life will be better for it.

Bewbies · 01-02-2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

Well, according to his story, there were people within the organization that wanted to destroy his life, putting him out of work, because they disagreed with him.

Seems fair since his numbers were so good...

mcaj22 · 01-02-2014, 06:42 PM

in 2012 only Matt McBriar was shittier at punts inside 20.

enough said.

patteeu · 01-02-2014, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Yeah and that's bullshit. It doesn't matter if it was on the last day of the season or the Monday after.

Nonsense. His timing rationale makes complete sense whether you agree with him or not. There may be unstated reasons for the timing as well, but I don't see any reason to dismiss that one and it certainly does make a difference in terms of the position it puts his former teammates in.

Gravedigger · 01-02-2014, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

This and Phil Robertson are completely different.

PR expressed his views, and A&E expressed theirs, by suspending him. PR can still quit, A&E can still fire him. No rights are violated, and everyone is treated fairly under the law.

What Kluwe is alleging is harassment by an employer because of his opinions on a human rights issue. Whether its true or not, it IS a legal issue, because in America, discriminatory language by your employer is not allowed.

Again - this situation is completely different than Phil Robertson, who's rights were not violated.

They are different but the message is the same and there will always be similarities. When the media digs in and makes mountains out of molehills out of things like the Phil Robertson bullshit you open it up for bottom feeders to come along and take advantage of a similar type of topic and get their 15 minutes of fame out of it. Kluwe is one of those individuals, at least that's how he's always come across to me. I don't agree with Phil Robertson, but he's a good person with his own viewpoints, Kluwe is just a douchebag.

KChiefer · 01-02-2014, 06:51 PM

FTR, Kluwe didn't say anything about suing the NFL or the Vikings.

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01-02-2014, 06:21 PM	#31
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	the difference is PR doesn't suck at what he does, his job, he's very good at being an entertainer on television. Kluwe, actually isn't a good punter. It's like if Jason Collins wrote to deadspin saying the New Jersey Nets wont sign him because Jason Kidd is a bigot. No, they probably won't because you are not a good player.
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	in 2012 only Matt McBriar was shittier at punts inside 20. enough said.
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