Carbohydrates and inflammation

[Buehler445]

I’ve heard a couple different places now that eliminating carbohydrates from your diet can help eliminate inflammation.

As Lewdog (very douchtacullarly) pointed out, I have arthritis. I’m wondering if eliminating carbohydrates will eliminate some inflammation. Anymore I have no idea what the **** is based in science and what is hippie bullshit. This kind of sounds like the latter, at least in my head.

It’s not something I’m super excited about, but would be willing to consider if there is a science-based good probability of materially affecting the inflammation.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I’ve heard a couple different places now that eliminating carbohydrates from your diet can help eliminate inflammation.

As Lewdog (very douchtacullarly) pointed out, I have arthritis. I’m wondering if eliminating carbohydrates will eliminate some inflammation. Anymore I have no idea what the **** is based in science and what is hippie bullshit. This kind of sounds like the latter, at least in my head.

It’s not something I’m super excited about, but would be willing to consider if there is a science-based good probability of materially affecting the inflammation.

I know a lot of hard core MMA fighters who are very not hippie dudes who will advise you of a lot of “hippie bullshit” diet stuff, including veganism.

I’m not vegan, but they tell me all the time to do it.

CBD or CBG is also excellent for arthritic inflammation.

[Fish]

From what I've read, it's not as simple as just cutting carbs and reducing inflammation. It depends on many factors. The source of the carbs. Are they highly processed carbs or whole grain carbs? What your lifestyle is like. If you're not active and get little exercise, then cutting carbs can be very beneficial. If you're active, then cutting carbs could cause some negative things to happen. Inflammation could also just be the result of your work and diet may not ever be able to overcome that. It's complicated.

Here's a decent page with lots info on the subject, with lots of reference links if you're curious about the actual scientific studies:

https://www.precisionnutrition.com/low-carb-diets

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Fish

From what I've read, it's not as simple as just cutting carbs and reducing inflammation. It depends on many factors. The source of the carbs. Are they highly processed carbs or whole grain carbs? What your lifestyle is like. If you're not active and get little exercise, then cutting carbs can be very beneficial. If you're active, then cutting carbs could cause some negative things to happen. Inflammation could also just be the result of your work and diet may not ever be able to overcome that. It's complicated.

Here's a decent page with lots info on the subject, with lots of reference links if you're curious about the actual scientific studies:

https://www.precisionnutrition.com/low-carb-diets

Very good post Fish and I think the article is spot on. I think it is easier now to make a switch to whole grains as the selection is good for the most part.

I might also add that I have found beer to be the cause of inflammation in my joints, or at the very least it aggravates the heck out of them. It sucks, but it is a choice not easy to make because I love beer.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

The human body has absolutely no need for any carbohydrates. They don't supply any trace minerals ,vitamins or protein.

Get on a Ketogenic diet which is very satisfying ,(your hunger cravings absolutely go away) and then go to intermittent fasting. Inflammation will virtually disappear. I've gone to one meal a day. Yesterday I skipped the one meal which gave me a 48 hour fast.

After the doctor damn near gave me brain damage with a medication switch i made up my mind I'm done with any medication I'm taking just because I'm a little overweight causing high blood pressure.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

The human body has absolutely no need for any carbohydrates.They don't supply any trace minerals ,vitamins or protein.

Get on a Ketogenic diet which is very satisfying ,(your hunger cravings absolutely go away) and then go to intermittent fasting. Inflammation will virtually disappear. I've gone to one meal a day. Yesterday I skipped the one meal which gave me a 48 hour fast.

After the doctor damn near gave me brain damage with a medication switch i made up my mind I'm done with any medication I'm taking just because I'm a little overweight causing high blood pressure.

I don’t agree with the first statement in your paragraph.

Its nonsense imo. Our RBCS are 100% glucose dependent for energy but yet you’re saying the body doesnt need any carbs?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by bricks

I don’t agree with the first statement in your paragraph.

Its nonsense imo. Our RBCS are 100% glucose dependent for energy but yet you’re saying the body doesnt need any carbs?

You need to do more research. Carbs are not necessary except for what you get in veggies. In fact to most people they're the sole cause of obesity.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

You need to do more research. Carbs are not necessary except for what you get in veggies. In fact to most people they're the sole cause of obesity.

To be honest, I’ve learned from my experiences AND Im a health science major. With that being said, I’ve done a lot of research with respect to this topic and have been on plenty of keto diets myself to suggest it ain’t healthy for us.

I used to bodybuild as well and I recall going on low carb diets for my cutting phase. The biggest mistake I made was staying on these diets for too long. You know what happened to me? I lost hair bro. Yup. Thats right.

There is such a thing called gluconeogenesis. Basically, that is just a fancy term for the formation of new glucose through substrates like lactate, alanine, and glycerol. All these get metabolized by liver to create glucose if the body is not getting enough carbs. So what does that suggest? The human body needs glucose!!! And it will find ways to make it if you’re not giving your body enough carbohydrates.

And if you stay on these diets for too long like myself, its possible you could lose hair or even have organ damage somewhere!! If the body is starved of carbs for too long, it will take other macronutrients from your diet, protein, fat, break those down to make sugar and if thats a bit lacking in your diet, it’ll start breaking down muscle tissue or lean body mass tissue from your organs if it has to.

Your body does not care in that aspect because all its trying to do is protect itself to survive by making sugars for your rbcs and for your brain cells as well. Please don’t go on these diets if you happen to consider them. Learn from my mistakes and what Im telling you. Its not worth it.

*I think what you need to do is engage yourself in factual information and seperate those facts from myths. Don’t believe everything you hear. A lot of info out there with respect to dieting and exercise is bs.

[Nzoner]

FWIW if you have Netflix this is a good watch,granted it's for the keto lifestyle but still a good watch no matter what side you're on.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

The human body has absolutely no need for any carbohydrates. They don't supply any trace minerals ,vitamins or protein.

Get on a Ketogenic diet which is very satisfying ,(your hunger cravings absolutely go away) and then go to intermittent fasting. Inflammation will virtually disappear. I've gone to one meal a day. Yesterday I skipped the one meal which gave me a 48 hour fast.

After the doctor damn near gave me brain damage with a medication switch i made up my mind I'm done with any medication I'm taking just because I'm a little overweight causing high blood pressure.

That's dangerously false.

Keto diets are dumb and unsustainable.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Fish

That's dangerously false.

Keto diets are dumb and unsustainable.

Dr Berg disagrees

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Dr Berg disagrees

"Dr." Berg is a ****ing quack. Very well known for his pseudoscience bullshit.

He's not even an actual doctor. He's just a chiropractor. He's not legally allowed to even put a "Dr." in front of his name. He's been reprimanded and fined for his bullshit claims. Don't trust individuals spouting stuff that's completely contradictory to known science. Trust the overall body of knowledge. Which says that keto is shit. It absolutely has the potential to provide weight loss, but it's biologically dangerous and unsustainable for most people.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Dr Berg disagrees

Have you honestly seen what this chucklehead tries to sell? Take a look:

https://shop.drberg.com/

Do you really believe that this chiropractor actually has any knowledge and experience in the fields in the link? How can you honestly look at that and think this guy is some kind of expert, as opposed to a snake oil salesmen trying to sell a cure for every type of malady. Let's take a look at this short list of treatments "Dr." Berg offers for sale. Seriously, he will sell you something for each of these issues and many more..

Hair Formula
Keto Combo
Galbladder Formula
Icelandic Sea Kelp ()
Adrenal Body Type Formula
Thyroid Body Type Formula
Ovary Body Type Formula
Liver Body Type Formula
Stress Kit
Trace Minerals
Digestive Kit
Joint Support
Blood Sugar Support
Estrogen Balance
Sleep Aid
Sleep Aid (Vegan) ()
Electrolyte Formula
Kale Shake Powder
Audio and Video Books
Keto Fasting Coach Certification
Keto Recipe book

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by Fish

That's dangerously false.

Keto diets are dumb and unsustainable.

Always makes laugh how people are so protective of their carbs.

We've been told to eliminate fats for the last 40+ years and instead eat more breads, pasta and rice (just look at the food pyramid)... look how that has worked out.

For the OP I can only give you my experience I have done a low carb eating plan for the last 18 weeks combined with intermittent fasting, and it has helped me lose a lot of weight and I no longer suffer from bloating.

My only carbs are from vegetables and nuts so it is not about eliminating carbs its about cutting out or down the beige (Bread)and white (sugar) carbs. I disagree that carbs are not essential because to me fibre important for gut health so green carbs are important to me any.

I eat strategic carb days every 2 weeks and have cheats meals like anyone else.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Danguardace

Always makes laugh how people are so protective of their carbs.

We've been told to eliminate fats for the last 40+ years and instead eat more breads, pasta and rice (just look at the food pyramid)... look how that has worked out.

For the OP I can only give you my experience I have done a low carb eating plan for the last 18 weeks combined with intermittent fasting, and it has helped me lose a lot of weight and I no longer suffer from bloating.

My only carbs are from vegetables and nuts so it is not about eliminating carbs its about cutting out or down the beige (Bread)and white (sugar) carbs. I disagree that carbs are not essential because to me fibre important for gut health so green carbs are important to me any.

I eat strategic carb days every 2 weeks and have cheats meals like anyone else.

Spot on. Yeah I should not have stated it as I did. On my diet I eat a big salad as part of my meal which of course contains some carbs BUT the carbs themselves are not essential. Just the nutrients you get with the veggies.