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Old 11-06-2012, 03:35 AM   Topic Starter
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Pro Football Reference's simple rating system and the 2012 Chiefs
Read this post slowly and carefully. Do not skip to the end. You need to fully comprehend the content of this post to appreciate the impact of the message.

The SRS on PFR is a great tool to compare teams historically beyond W-L record. A definition:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=538

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To refresh your memory, it’s a system that’s been around forever and is extremely basic compared some of the other power rating systems out there. But I like it because it’s easy to understand.

An average team will have a rating of zero. An above average team will have a positive rating while a below average team will have a negative rating.

Every team will have a rating that is the equal to their average point margin plus the average of their opponent’s ratings, so the teams’ ratings are all interdependent.

The Colts’ rating depends upon the ratings of all their opponents, which depends upon the ratings of all their opponents (some of which are the Colts), and so on.
Let's take a look at some SRS for good Chiefs teams.



1968 +14.0
1969 +11.9

1997 +8.4
2003 +8.3


Let's take a look at some SRS for bad Chiefs teams.




2008 -9.2
1988 -5.7
1977 -4.9


Let's take a look at some SRS for bad teams throughout NFL history.

This is the SRS rating for the worst teams these franchises have fielded. Any franchise that did not hit close to -15 or worse was excluded.




2000 Cardinals -15.2
1966 Falcons -15.5
2000 Browns -14.6
1960 Cowboys -14.8
2009 Lions -14.4
1950 Packers -18.2
1991 Colts -17.3
2012 Jaguars -15.5
1972 Patriots -17.4
1966 Giants -16.8
1965 Steelers -18.3
1976 Seahawks -15.1
2009 Rams -17.4
1976 Oilers -16.8


You may have noticed I left out all of Scott Pioli's Chiefs teams.

Let's take a look at those juggernauts!



2009 -8.4
2010 -0.7
2011 -8.1


Ouch. Even when Pioli fielded a winning team, it had a negative rating. Overrated team? Yes.


We're about to get to the 2012 Chiefs. Hang tight.


Are you ready for this, Scott?



YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE THIS, PIOLI.



GET READY TO BURN, YOU FRAUD!!!!





The Three Worst Teams In NFL History.


T-1. 1976 Bucs -19.7

T-1. 1954 Redskins -19.7

2. 2012 Kansas City Chiefs -18.4


Hang tight, boys. Eight games left. We can still field...

The Worst Team In NFL History.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:41 AM   #2
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The worst offense in Chiefs history? 2011.

2nd worst?

2012.

Worst defense in Chiefs history?

2012.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/

Just go there and sort by the column at the far right. SRS, OSRS and DSRS.
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The worst offense in Chiefs history? 2011.

2nd worst?

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Worst defense in Chiefs history?

2012.
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ALSO...

The worst offense in Chiefs history? 2011.

2nd worst?

2012.

Worst defense in Chiefs history?

2012.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/

Just go there and sort by the column at the far right. SRS, OSRS and DSRS.
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ALSO...

The worst offense in Chiefs history? 2011.

2nd worst?

2012.

Worst defense in Chiefs history?

2012.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/

Just go there and sort by the column at the far right. SRS, OSRS and DSRS.
This defense can't be worse than the Grob 32 defense.
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This defense can't be worse than the Grob 32 defense.
I dunno man, they got some stops, just couldn't buy one when we needed it.

This one gave up 50 points to the ****ing Bills. Got crushed by a 2 win Faid team. Just terrible.
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This defense can't be worse than the Grob 32 defense.
Yes it can.

Because Robinson's defense played good teams.

Also, GROB:

2001 - 21.5 PPG allowed
2002 - 24.9 PPG allowed
2003 - 20.8 PPG allowed

2012 - 30.0 PPG allowed

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Yes it can.

Because Robinson's defense played good teams.

Also, GROB:

2001 - 21.5 PPG allowed
2002 - 24.9 PPG allowed
2003 - 20.8 PPG allowed

2012 - 30.0 PPG allowed
This team is giving up 30.0 per game because the offense is giving the other team short field so many times. The defense also knows that once they give up 20 the game is over. The 2002 team actually outscored the opposition despite giving up 399 points. The offense in 2002 gave up the ball only 15 times while we've given it up 29 times in half a season. The Chiefs were outgained that year despite having 6000 yards of offense.

To top it off, the 2004 Chiefs may have even been worse.
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This team is giving up 30.0 per game because the offense is giving the other team short field so many times. The defense also knows that once they give up 20 the game is over. The 2002 team actually outscored the opposition despite giving up 399 points. The offense in 2002 gave up the ball only 15 times while we've given it up 29 times in half a season. The Chiefs were outgained that year despite having 6000 yards of offense.

To top it off, the 2004 Chiefs may have even been worse.
Sorry, but giving up 6.3 yards per play is abysmal, turnovers or not.

Remember when the D let the Bucs go right down the field to start the second half of that game?

Remember when they got crushed by the Raiders when we got within striking distance?

Last week against San Diego, it's 10-6, and the defense lays down and it's 17-6.

This is a god damn terrible defense. The only team allowing more yards per play this year is the Saints.
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IT'S ONLY THE PRESEASON. JFC these games don't matter!
Shit the starters played their best ball in the very first preseason game lol. I was all "Super Bowl!" after that game. I'm dumb like that...
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