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Old 02-13-2018, 10:44 AM  
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Judge Orders Clinton-Starr Docs Unsealed

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...led/ar-BBJ5eB9

Secret documents detailing special prosecutor Ken Starr’s investigation of President Bill Clinton will reportedly be unsealed following a federal court’s ruling Monday and could be used as a roadmap for Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into possible collusion between President Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia.
Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell, of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, stated that the court would release some of the documents, per CNN’s request, but that the court will also review other documents and determine if those will be made public.
Among other things, the documents reportedly describe how Starr’s team and Clinton’s attorneys negotiated for six months before the president sat down for an interview under oath.
Howell explained that some of the records should have been made public before, but that no proper direction had been given for their release. Howell is also the judge likely to oversee Mueller’s grand jury in Washington D.C., according to The National Law Journal.

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"Apparently, after issuance of the Starr Report, no specific direction was provided to the Clerk's Office as to which documents included in the Starr Report were to be disclosed, and the Clerk's Office rightfully carefully maintains the confidentiality of sealed matters unless expressly directed to unseal records,” Howell wrote in her ruling.
Still, some records are still being kept secret, with the Justice Department being given until February 23 to respond to requests to make them public.
A potential showdown between Mueller and Trump has weighed heavily on the president’s lawyers and his allies. Trump’s attorneys are reportedly worried about the president’s manner of speaking and afraid he could lie to the special counsel, even unwittingly, and have encouraged him not to meet with Mueller.
Others, like Trump confidant Roger Stone, have long stated that Mueller intends to charge Trump and that the president could be walking into a “perjury trap” if he were to be interviewed.
Trump, who has repeatedly denied any collusion between his campaign and Russia to win the 2016 election, labeling the special counsel’s probe a “witch hunt,” has said publicly that he would be “happy” to speak to Mueller’s team under oath.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:39 PM   #16
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My point was simple - I'm not involved in the investigation, so I can only wildly speculate what may be uncovered. I cannot present that as fact or anything resembling reasonable fact.
You got that right. The only thing that Anti-Trump people can do is wildly speculate because there isn't a sniff that Mueller has anything on Trump except an attempt a process crimes. The only evidence that exists is an attempt at process crimes, and rather insubstantial cases at that. IF Mueller has anything on Trump, what is clear is that he's not bothering to prep the nation for it by leaking facts that help soften the impact such a thing would cause to the nation.

In order to believe Trump is in any trouble, the only thing you can use at this moment is wild speculation. As of now, there is only evidence that he DOESN'T have anything.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:50 PM   #17
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You got that right. The only thing that Anti-Trump people can do is wildly speculate because there isn't a sniff that Mueller has anything on Trump except an attempt a process crimes. The only evidence that exists is an attempt at process crimes, and rather insubstantial cases at that. IF Mueller has anything on Trump, what is clear is that he's not bothering to prep the nation for it by leaking facts that help soften the impact such a thing would cause to the nation.

In order to believe Trump is in any trouble, the only thing you can use at this moment is wild speculation. As of now, there is only evidence that he DOESN'T have anything.
I just . . . you can't make this type of mental gymnastics up. Only you, TacoWrong.

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Old 02-13-2018, 03:03 PM   #18
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You got that right. The only thing that Anti-Trump people can do is wildly speculate because there isn't a sniff that Mueller has anything on Trump except an attempt a process crimes. The only evidence that exists is an attempt at process crimes, and rather insubstantial cases at that. IF Mueller has anything on Trump, what is clear is that he's not bothering to prep the nation for it by leaking facts that help soften the impact such a thing would cause to the nation.

In order to believe Trump is in any trouble, the only thing you can use at this moment is wild speculation. As of now, there is only evidence that he DOESN'T have anything.
Interesting, so now you are advocating leaking?
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:57 PM   #19
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Interesting, so now you are advocating leaking?
Oh sure. Absolutely. You bet. I'm always in favor of leaks. The more the merrier.
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:58 PM   #20
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I just . . . you can't make this type of mental gymnastics up. Only you, TacoWrong.

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What are you talking about? You're the one who said that. I just reinforced what you said. You are absolutely right on that point. No mental gymnastics needed.
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:59 PM   #21
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Oh sure. Absolutely. You bet. I'm always in favor of leaks. The more the merrier.
lol, good deflection.
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:02 PM   #22
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Interesting, so now you are advocating leaking?
You should know better than use leaking so generally like that. It depends on the leaks. Sometimes administration authorize intentional leaks for a reason.

You guys just don't differentiate. You do the same thing with EOs as if they're all identical faux pas when they're not.
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lol, good deflection.
Deflection?
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:04 PM   #24
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I hate to play the whole Donger game here, but - how do you know anything about that? Let me know what Mueller's thinking on this plz, Mr. Insider

EDIT: Or Ms. Insider. Not quite sure yet.
Most people who have followed the story closely and who can reason, can see that from all that's been reported. Doesn't matter what Mueller is thinking. He has to have facts.
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:05 PM   #25
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Again - you don't know that for sure. Historically speaking, this is a person whose corrupt business dealings have raised eyebrows all over the world.

*please take the bait, please take the bait*
Your defamation is a over generalized hyperbole and not based on facts.
If his business dealings were that corrupt, he wouldn't be able to succeed. Besides you're more likely to find far greater corruption by govt officials or corporatists who have a revolving door in and out of govt positions for decades. Like Goldman Sachs or Halliburton.
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lol, good deflection.


Only in DC can complete agreement be labeled as “deflection”.
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:16 PM   #27
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Trump-Starr was unsealed a while ago.

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Trump-Starr was unsealed a while ago.

Does this mean he's no longer President...
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Does this mean he's no longer President...
If only.
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Only in DC can complete agreement be labeled as “deflection”.
It was obviously sarcastic agreement so that he didn't have to admit he wanted leaking when it is favorable to him but condemns it when it's not.
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