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Old 02-12-2018, 07:10 AM  
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Last week marked the fifth anniversary of Colorado's decision to sanction the world's first anything-goes commercial pot trade.

Five years later, we remain an embarrassing cautionary tale.

Visitors to Colorado remark about a new agricultural smell, the wafting odor of pot as they drive near warehouse grow operations along Denver freeways. Residential neighborhoods throughout Colorado Springs reek of marijuana, as producers fill rental homes with plants.

Five years of retail pot coincide with five years of a homelessness growth rate that ranks among the highest rates in the country. Directors of homeless shelters, and people who live on the streets, tell us homeless substance abusers migrate here for easy access to pot.

Five years of Big Marijuana ushered in a doubling in the number of drivers involved in fatal crashes who tested positive for marijuana, based on research by the pro-legalization Denver Post.

Five years of commercial pot have been five years of more marijuana in schools than teachers and administrators ever feared.

"An investigation by Education News Colorado, Solutions and the I-News Network shows drug violations reported by Colorado's K-12 schools have increased 45 percent in the past four years, even as the combined number of all other violations has fallen," explains an expose on escalating pot use in schools by Rocky Mountain PBS in late 2016.

The investigation found an increase in high school drug violations of 71 percent since legalization. School suspensions for drugs increased 45 percent.

The National Survey on Drug Use and Health found Colorado ranks first in the country for marijuana use among teens, scoring well above the national average.

The only good news to celebrate on this anniversary is the dawn of another organization to push back against Big Marijuana's threat to kids, teens and young adults.

The Marijuana Accountability Coalition formed Nov. 6 in Denver and will establish satellites throughout the state. It resulted from discussions among recovery professionals, parents, physicians and others concerned with the long-term effects of a commercial industry profiteering off of substance abuse.

"It's one thing to decriminalize marijuana, it's an entirely different thing to legalize an industry that has commercialized a drug that is devastating our kids and devastating whole communities," said coalition founder Justin Luke Riley. "Coloradans need to know, other states need to know, that Colorado is suffering from massive normalization and commercialization of this drug which has resulted in Colorado being the number one state for youth drug use in the country. Kids are being expelled at higher rates, and more road deaths tied to pot have resulted since legalization."

Commercial pot's five-year anniversary is an odious occasion for those who want safer streets, healthier kids and less suffering associated with substance abuse. Experts say the worst effects of widespread pot use will culminate over decades. If so, we can only imagine the somber nature of Big Marijuana's 25th birthday.

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Old 02-12-2018, 10:59 AM   #46
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Colorado is trying to do just that and y'all are on a hilarious Reefer Madness trip.
Its hilarious we have a bunch of "states rights" folks up in here trying to tell a state what they can or cant do when they don't even live there.
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:35 AM   #47
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:43 AM   #48
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Anyone who drinks alcohol and has the nerve to shit on pot can go suck a dick.

Alcohol is the absolute worst. Turns most dudes into obnoxious assholes. It stinks.

That shit reeks the moment you booze hounds open your mouth. You talk all slurred like a bunch of ****ing morons, act like a complete jackass and then generally do something stupid, on top of being completely unreasonable.

If there were ever a substance that should be banned, it'd be booze. Alcohol brings out the absolute worst in people.

Weed makes people laugh and get hungry. I can't take the opinion of someone who drinks seriously regarding this topic. Booze is so much worse. It's family destroying. Life destroying, and much more addictive.
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:45 AM   #49
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:50 AM   #50
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Can't stand alcoholics. Can't stand drunk people. They're the freakin' worst, man.
Drunks are also aggressive and more likely to beat and abuse their family.

Either, the puritan prohibitionist Baptists have had their say long enough. Their methods of prohibition made organized crime powerful in the US.
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:58 AM   #51
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Drunks are also aggressive and more likely to beat and abuse their family.
Absolutely. Abso-****ing-lutely.

Drunks are significantly more aggressive. Damn near every time you put on the local news and something tragic happened, alcohol was involved.

The stories of drunkies either ruining their own lives, their families lives or someone else's is endless.

IMO, Alcohol is the absolute worst substance we deal with as a society. It's so abundant, so easy to get, and has some of the worst effects on a person.

When i'm around a drunk i have remove myself from the situation. Just seeing them loud, abnoxious, slurred and falling over themselves makes me want to punch them in the face. Hate it. Absolutely hate it.

Maybe it's because i was raised by an alcoholic, idk, but i've seen enough of what it does to people. I've seen what it does to me. I can't stand the shit.

Social drinking is one thing. The problem is however that half these "social drinkers" don't know when to stop and then next thing you know, they too are shit faced idiots.

And then they spout whatever stupid, unreasonable shit and their nasty booze breath is all in your face...ughhh......

Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much rather deal with a pot head.
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:01 PM   #52
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Absolutely. Abso-****ing-lutely.

Drunks are significantly more aggressive. Damn near every time you put on the local news and something tragic happened, alcohol was involved.

The stories of drunkies either ruining their own lives, their families lives or someone else's is endless.

IMO, Alcohol is the absolute worst substance we deal with as a society. It's so abundant, so easy to get, and has some of the worst effects on a person.

When i'm around a drunk i have remove myself from the situation. Just seeing them loud, abnoxious, slurred and falling over themselves makes me want to punch them in the face. Hate it. Absolutely hate it.

Maybe it's because i was raised by an alcoholic, idk, but i've seen enough of what it does to people. I've seen what it does to me. I can't stand the shit.

Social drinking is one thing. The problem is however that half these "social drinkers" don't know when to stop and then next thing you know, they too are shit faced idiots.

And then they spout whatever stupid, unreasonable shit and their nasty booze breath is all in your face...ughhh......

Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much Much rather deal with a pot head.

Did you hear about that Chiefs player that killed his girlfriend while he was drunk? Must of been the alcohol. Make it illegal and put everyone in jail who uses it seems reasonable to me.
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:13 PM   #54
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So five years into legalized pot and their big complaint is a completely subjective claim that the freeways smell funny? Sounds like a resounding success.
Did you even bother to scan the article?


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Old 02-12-2018, 12:16 PM   #55
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As Stinky Bug Nuts pointed out though, testing positive and being under the influence are two different things. The former lasts for days if not weeks after ingestion while the latter lasts for hours at most. So you get high on Sunday afternoon and then die in a car crash Monday evening and you test positive for marijuana even though you weren't under the influence at the time of the crash, for example.

I don't have any doubt that there are more marijuana influenced drivers (and fatalities) on the road in CO after legalization, but the statistic offered in the article gives what I would suspect is a significantly inflated impression of the effect.
Depends on what the standard is they aren't saying and you don't know shit about testing for DUI THC... Quit reinforcing your point, it's NOT fact so STOP telling us it is.
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That's a weird way to say it if you mean reality. The author of the article didn't have to use a misleading statistic.
You have no ****ing idea what was considered as the standard. THC is measurable and a TRUE or FALSE is what you ASSumed they used.
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Its hilarious we have a bunch of "states rights" folks up in here trying to tell a state what they can or cant do when they don't even live there.
I think it's more hilarious we have folks who deny states rights, but suddenly want to evoke it for pot legalization. Leftists gonna hypocrite
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You have no ****ing idea what was considered as the standard. THC is measurable and a TRUE or FALSE is what you ASSumed they used.
Uhm....you don't know either. Which is entirely his point. What's yours? If you think telling him that he doesn't know for sure how much pot was used...well...he knows that. It's in his post.

That's the error in the OP. The OP doesn't cite whether someone was high, or if some time in the last 30 days they smoked.

Not sure why you're trying to grill him.
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heh.

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