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Old 02-12-2018, 07:10 AM  
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Dopers will not like this opinion.

Last week marked the fifth anniversary of Colorado's decision to sanction the world's first anything-goes commercial pot trade.

Five years later, we remain an embarrassing cautionary tale.

Visitors to Colorado remark about a new agricultural smell, the wafting odor of pot as they drive near warehouse grow operations along Denver freeways. Residential neighborhoods throughout Colorado Springs reek of marijuana, as producers fill rental homes with plants.

Five years of retail pot coincide with five years of a homelessness growth rate that ranks among the highest rates in the country. Directors of homeless shelters, and people who live on the streets, tell us homeless substance abusers migrate here for easy access to pot.

Five years of Big Marijuana ushered in a doubling in the number of drivers involved in fatal crashes who tested positive for marijuana, based on research by the pro-legalization Denver Post.

Five years of commercial pot have been five years of more marijuana in schools than teachers and administrators ever feared.

"An investigation by Education News Colorado, Solutions and the I-News Network shows drug violations reported by Colorado's K-12 schools have increased 45 percent in the past four years, even as the combined number of all other violations has fallen," explains an expose on escalating pot use in schools by Rocky Mountain PBS in late 2016.

The investigation found an increase in high school drug violations of 71 percent since legalization. School suspensions for drugs increased 45 percent.

The National Survey on Drug Use and Health found Colorado ranks first in the country for marijuana use among teens, scoring well above the national average.

The only good news to celebrate on this anniversary is the dawn of another organization to push back against Big Marijuana's threat to kids, teens and young adults.

The Marijuana Accountability Coalition formed Nov. 6 in Denver and will establish satellites throughout the state. It resulted from discussions among recovery professionals, parents, physicians and others concerned with the long-term effects of a commercial industry profiteering off of substance abuse.

"It's one thing to decriminalize marijuana, it's an entirely different thing to legalize an industry that has commercialized a drug that is devastating our kids and devastating whole communities," said coalition founder Justin Luke Riley. "Coloradans need to know, other states need to know, that Colorado is suffering from massive normalization and commercialization of this drug which has resulted in Colorado being the number one state for youth drug use in the country. Kids are being expelled at higher rates, and more road deaths tied to pot have resulted since legalization."

Commercial pot's five-year anniversary is an odious occasion for those who want safer streets, healthier kids and less suffering associated with substance abuse. Experts say the worst effects of widespread pot use will culminate over decades. If so, we can only imagine the somber nature of Big Marijuana's 25th birthday.

— Colorado Springs Gazette
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:49 AM   #31
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Kids don't get pot from the stores.
Kids get it from their parents, or the parents of their friends.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:50 AM   #32
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The vast majority of drivers who survived fatal crashes and were tested for cannabinoids showed they had used the drug within hours of testing. In 2016, for example, all 22 of the surviving drivers suspected of marijuana impairment tested positive for levels of Delta-9 THC — and seven of them at levels deemed illegal to drive.

It was nearly the same in 2015, The Post found, with 18 of 22 drivers who survived a crash testing positive for Delta-9 THC. Five of them tested at or above 5 ng/mL, the legal limit.

The biggest testing lab in the state — ChemaTox in Boulder — is finding the same trend. The lab has found that of the tests that were positive for marijuana use, more than 80 percent were for active THC, indicating use within hours of when the sample was taken.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:53 AM   #33
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The vast majority of drivers who survived fatal crashes and were tested for cannabinoids showed they had used the drug within hours of testing. In 2016, for example, all 22 of the surviving drivers suspected of marijuana impairment tested positive for levels of Delta-9 THC — and seven of them at levels deemed illegal to drive.

It was nearly the same in 2015, The Post found, with 18 of 22 drivers who survived a crash testing positive for Delta-9 THC. Five of them tested at or above 5 ng/mL, the legal limit.

The biggest testing lab in the state — ChemaTox in Boulder — is finding the same trend. The lab has found that of the tests that were positive for marijuana use, more than 80 percent were for active THC, indicating use within hours of when the sample was taken.
So the fairly large majority were not legally impaired at the time of testing.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:53 AM   #34
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Glad CO is recognizing the drawbacks and taking action to help mitigate the negatives.
Yep. It's all one can do; adjust.

I know one thing, states that criminalize this stuff and destroy lives in an awful prison system that does not foster rehabilitation are the ones doing the most harm. Those states aren't going to get better at managing pot use by putting people in prison.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:06 AM   #35
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I remember the potheads telling me I was ignorant when I said that this would lead to more kids using pot. Heh.
You know how that works. A druggie will do/say whatever they think will get them their drug of choice.

When I was younger, I was the same way when trying to separate women from their panties. "Do you really love me?" You bet sall....er Tiffi.... errr honey, yea that's it
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:12 AM   #36
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Yes, I'm sure it's just a coincidence:

The number of drivers involved in fatal crashes in Colorado who tested positive for marijuana has risen sharply each year since 2013, more than doubling in that time, federal and state data show.
How many were texting and driving or distracted from a cell phone?

I would rather deal with somebody stoned driving instead of a person texting and driving.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:17 AM   #37
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The addict will always defend their addiction just as the boozer will never own up to the problem. In many ways dopers and junkies are more childlike and they should be managed as such. Legalizing and making more available easier is a fools errand. They prove over and over an inability to use and reason or self control. Stuck in a 10 yer olds state of development
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:25 AM   #38
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The addict will always defend their addiction just as the boozer will never own up to the problem. In many ways dopers and junkies are more childlike and they should be managed as such. Legalizing and making more available easier is a fools errand. They prove over and over an inability to use and reason or self control. Stuck in a 10 yer olds state of development
We talkin' about weed, dude? LOL if so.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:27 AM   #39
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The addict will always defend their addiction just as the boozer will never own up to the problem. In many ways dopers and junkies are more childlike and they should be managed as such. Legalizing and making more available easier is a fools errand. They prove over and over an inability to use and reason or self control. Stuck in a 10 yer olds state of development
Sounds like you are talking about the vast majority of people that drink alcohol.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:30 AM   #40
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Sounds like you are talking about the vast majority of people that drink alcohol.
No, just the ones who are alcoholics.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:32 AM   #41
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How many were texting and driving or distracted from a cell phone?

I would rather deal with somebody stoned driving instead of a person texting and driving.
Texting while driving is illegal in most states. Some have even outlawed driving while using a hand-held cell phone or are considering it.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:34 AM   #42
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You know how that works. A druggie will do/say whatever they think will get them their drug of choice.

When I was younger, I was the same way when trying to separate women from their panties. "Do you really love me?" You bet sall....er Tiffi.... errr honey, yea that's it
Some of us are raised how to deal with young men like that and pass off the same training to their own daughters. It's no different than dealing with a used-car salesman or Dongers of the world.
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The price of liberty isnt always pretty. Anyone who defends the rights of gun owners, but doesnt go to bat for peoples' right to smoke pot are hypocrites.
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The War on Drugs has been such a spectacular, multi-generational failure. Just absurd to see prople pretending that the freeways smelling off is a national crisis and expecting to be taken seriously.
War on Drugs is another matter. States can pass what laws they want regarding drugs without having a federal "war" on drugs.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:52 AM   #45
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War on Drugs is another matter. States can pass what laws they want regarding drugs without having a federal "war" on drugs.
Colorado is trying to do just that and y'all are on a hilarious Reefer Madness trip.
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