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Old 01-11-2018, 04:16 PM  
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Trump attacks protections for immigrants from ‘shithole’ countries

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Trump attacks protections for immigrants from ‘shithole’ countries

President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they floated restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to two people briefed on the meeting.

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to African countries and Haiti. He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he met Wednesday.

The comments left lawmakers taken aback, according to people familiar with their reactions. Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) and Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) proposed cutting the visa lottery program by 50 percent and prioritizing countries already in the system, a White House official said.

A White House spokesman declined to offer an immediate comment on Trump’s remarks

Outlining a potential bipartisan deal, the lawmakers discussed restoring protections for countries that have been removed from the temporary protected status program while adding $1.5 billion for a border wall and making changes to the visa lottery system.

The administration announced this week that it was removing the protection for citizens of El Salvador.

Trump had seemed amenable to a deal earlier in the day during phone calls, aides said, but shifted his position in the meeting and did not seem interested.


Graham and Durbin thought they would be meeting with Trump alone and were surprised to find immigration hard-liners such as Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) at the meeting. The meeting was impromptu and came after phone calls Thursday morning, Capitol Hill aides said.

[White House: No deal yet on immigration]

After the meeting, Marc Short, Trump’s legislative aide, said the White House was nowhere near a bipartisan deal on immigration.

“We still think we can get there,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said at the daily White House news briefing.
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this is all extraneous. the point is: you claimed They revolted to end their enslavement.



but the revolt did not end slavery in Haiti.



do we really need to argue every factoid about slavery?

You’re making one of two arguments here and they’re both ridiculous.

You’re either saying a) there are sex slaves in Haiti now so they didn’t actually fight to end slavery at the end of the turn of the 18th century or b) the end result somehow affects the original cause.

I look forward to hearing more about how the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t end slavery in America because there are sex slaves here today and how Spartacus and Nat Turner didn’t fight to end their enslavement because they ultimately weren’t successful.
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You’re making one of two arguments here and they’re both ridiculous.

You’re either saying a) there are sex slaves in Haiti now so they didn’t actually fight to end slavery at the end of the turn of the 18th century or b) the end result somehow affects the original cause.

I look forward to hearing more about how the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t end slavery in America because there are sex slaves here today and how Spartacus and Nat Turner didn’t fight to end their enslavement because they ultimately weren’t successful.
no. my argument is that Haitians killed the French in an effort to end their enslavement and it didn't work. Haiti is being exploited and has been for a long time. Haiti should consider cutting ties with their abusers whether its the world bank, the clinton foundation, or wyclef Jean. they should do that instead of moving in to their exploiter's back yard where they will be even more dependent
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