Carbohydrates and inflammation

[Buehler445]

I’ve heard a couple different places now that eliminating carbohydrates from your diet can help eliminate inflammation.

As Lewdog (very douchtacullarly) pointed out, I have arthritis. I’m wondering if eliminating carbohydrates will eliminate some inflammation. Anymore I have no idea what the **** is based in science and what is hippie bullshit. This kind of sounds like the latter, at least in my head.

It’s not something I’m super excited about, but would be willing to consider if there is a science-based good probability of materially affecting the inflammation.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by In58men

**** a diet fam


Take CBD oil!!!!!!1111

Kansas yo.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I was taking two meds. Valsartan 160mg and Hydrochlorothaladone 25mg. I complained to the doctor of severe dry mouth and sore throat.

He switched me to a single pill combo Valsartan160/HCTZ 12.5. After three weeks I had a blind episode while driving and severe dizzines,panic attacks, anxiety, head pain, eyeball pain . didn't think about it being side affects until I went to refill my medication and they said it had been recalled.

After investigating I found the medication had been contaminated with a known carcinogen and looking up the side effects all my symptoms were listed.


I made up my mind right then I was done with this shit. I cut out ALL CARBS except what I get in a salad. I've now lost 20 pounds in two plus weeks and my blood pressure is right where it's supposed to be.

I'm on no meds now and feel better than I've felt in years.

I had been on blood pressure meds for 25 years.

FYI, it was valsartan (which you were already taking) that was recalled, not necessarily the combination. I would blame the pharmacy more than the physician for dispensing a recalled medication

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by SupDock

FYI, it was valsartan (which you were already taking) that was recalled, not necessarily the combination. I would blame the pharmacy more than the physician for dispensing a recalled medication

yes, I don't blame the physician at all . The pharmacy was most likely alerted after it was already dispenced so I don't blame them either. But the chinese that made the product, well i don't blame them either. They're just doing what they're ordered to do and kill americans.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

yes, I don't blame the physician at all . The pharmacy was most likely alerted after it was already dispenced so I don't blame them either. But the chinese that made the product, well i don't blame them either. They're just doing what they're ordered to do and kill americans.

Congrats on the weight loss

[In58men]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Kansas yo.

What about Kansas? It’s legal there.

[TinyEvel]

Good for you on the lifestyle change, hog. I think America is trained to throw meds at whatever ails them and not do the lifestyle changes to reduce or try to mitigate the problem in the first place. It's bad for people but good for business.

I gave up alcohol 6 months ago, lost 20 Lbs but lately have been eating a lot of sugar (Ice cream, cookies, honeycomb candy, Whoppers, etc) and gained 5 lbs recently. I figured with out the alcohol and since I ride a bike about 10 hours a week I'd be fine. I'm now looking into anti-inflammatory foods for cycling recovery and going t out out all the treats I've been letting myself indulge in.

Just cutting the alcohol/beer eliminated probably 10,000 calories a week.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I was taking two meds. Valsartan 160mg and Hydrochlorothaladone 25mg. I complained to the doctor of severe dry mouth and sore throat.

He switched me to a single pill combo Valsartan160/HCTZ 12.5. After three weeks I had a blind episode while driving and severe dizzines,panic attacks, anxiety, head pain, eyeball pain . didn't think about it being side affects until I went to refill my medication and they said it had been recalled.

After investigating I found the medication had been contaminated with a known carcinogen and looking up the side effects all my symptoms were listed.


I made up my mind right then I was done with this shit. I cut out ALL CARBS except what I get in a salad. I've now lost 20 pounds in two plus weeks and my blood pressure is right where it's supposed to be.

I'm on no meds now and feel better than I've felt in years.

I had been on blood pressure meds for 25 years.

Water pills? Are you still on them? They are your cause of sore throat and dry mouth.

Recalled contaminated heart medication? Holy Crap Batman!!!!

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Fish

I would recommend looking at scientific info from people that aren't trying to sell you a remedy for it. For instance, "Dr." Berg above has his own entire subdomain for selling his keto BS: https://shop.drberg.com/keto-combo-regular

The scientists from the studies I listed above don't have hundreds of items to sell you.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to discourage healthy practices. Low carb absolutely does have benefits for some. But portraying it as an inflammation cure all just isn't honest in my opinion.

Of course you would because parade around here like DR. ****ing Science and everyone else is stupid. This just in everyone in the health industry is trying to make a buck and most scientific reports in health are done by scientists owned by big pharm with an agenda.

This is terrible advise. The massive majority in this country with rare exception will benefit dramatically from a low carb diet. Considering the average American eats WAYYYY too many carbs and the source of those carbs is generally processed sugar and food it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the benefits here. I don't think anyone said it was a cure all because nothing is. Sugar is the #1 food factor contributing to inflammation.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I’ve heard a couple different places now that eliminating carbohydrates from your diet can help eliminate inflammation.

As Lewdog (very douchtacullarly) pointed out, I have arthritis. I’m wondering if eliminating carbohydrates will eliminate some inflammation. Anymore I have no idea what the **** is based in science and what is hippie bullshit. This kind of sounds like the latter, at least in my head.

It’s not something I’m super excited about, but would be willing to consider if there is a science-based good probability of materially affecting the inflammation.

My advise would be this in order.

1. Eat an abundance of fresh organic veggies. A medium amount of sourced meats and raw nuts. Eat a small amount of organic fruits, preferably dark red or black cherries and blueberries. Both are fantastic for inflammation.

2. Do not eat processed foods and sugars, yes this includes alchohol. I know nobody is perfect but do the best you can.

3. If you are older get or make organic broth, you choose. Add a tablespoon of collagen. Pick up some tumeric extract curcumin 95% in bulk from bulksupplements.com It's super expensive any other way. Add a teaspoon to your broth when you warm it up to drink.

4. Get your gut right. There are lots of ways to do this but is critical.

5. As somebody mentioned here we are all different. You need to know what you are lacking in your system and what it has problems with. There are several ways to go about this. Find the one that you are the most comfortable with but do it. For example almost everyone has a problem properly digesting cows milk. It can very from a very little problem to huge one. My son came back that his system had real issues with black beans, go figure. Take the time, spend the money and you will be on your way.

It is hard to find the real deal glutathione cream but if you can it helps with flare ups. Hope this helps.

[Buehler445]

Thanks for the input guys. Much appreciated.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

You need to do more research. Carbs are not necessary except for what you get in veggies. In fact to most people they're the sole cause of obesity.

To be honest, I’ve learned from my experiences AND Im a health science major. With that being said, I’ve done a lot of research with respect to this topic and have been on plenty of keto diets myself to suggest it ain’t healthy for us.

I used to bodybuild as well and I recall going on low carb diets for my cutting phase. The biggest mistake I made was staying on these diets for too long. You know what happened to me? I lost hair bro. Yup. Thats right.

There is such a thing called gluconeogenesis. Basically, that is just a fancy term for the formation of new glucose through substrates like lactate, alanine, and glycerol. All these get metabolized by liver to create glucose if the body is not getting enough carbs. So what does that suggest? The human body needs glucose!!! And it will find ways to make it if you’re not giving your body enough carbohydrates.

And if you stay on these diets for too long like myself, its possible you could lose hair or even have organ damage somewhere!! If the body is starved of carbs for too long, it will take other macronutrients from your diet, protein, fat, break those down to make sugar and if thats a bit lacking in your diet, it’ll start breaking down muscle tissue or lean body mass tissue from your organs if it has to.

Your body does not care in that aspect because all its trying to do is protect itself to survive by making sugars for your rbcs and for your brain cells as well. Please don’t go on these diets if you happen to consider them. Learn from my mistakes and what Im telling you. Its not worth it.

*I think what you need to do is engage yourself in factual information and seperate those facts from myths. Don’t believe everything you hear. A lot of info out there with respect to dieting and exercise is bs.

[Nzoner]

FWIW if you have Netflix this is a good watch,granted it's for the keto lifestyle but still a good watch no matter what side you're on.

[Rausch]

It's now a proven fact.

High sugar diets lead to inflammation.

Fasting, intermittent fasting, and low sugar diets lower inflammation.

This is a hard fact for doctors to adapt to but the literature is out there. I see a ton of vids listed on this thread and all of them mention and reference the same studies and quote the same information.

It's just like how the low carb diet (and greater protein consumption) lowered cholesterol 20 years ago. Doctors were slow to endorse it, 10 years ago started to warm up and no longer dismiss it, and about 5 years ago started to endorse it.

Now the science has caught up and we know why.

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by Rausch

It's now a proven fact.



It's just like how the low carb diet (and greater protein consumption) lowered cholesterol 20 years ago. Doctors were slow to endorse it, 10 years ago started to warm up and no longer dismiss it, and about 5 years ago started to endorse it.

Now the science has caught up and we know why.

Yeah some 12 years ago I weighed 281 and cholesterol and blood pressure were way too high.Told my doc I was going to try low carb and he told me try anything but that.Six months later I come back weighing 231 and he said my cholesterol and BP were perfect,even said it went against everything he'd been taught.

Ended up getting to 199 and felt great,I still do it off and on and always feel better when I'm on.

[Bewbies]

Honestly, if you want to reduce inflammation I'd go vegan. You're basically eating anti-inflammatories entirely, give yourself a month or two and you'll probably feel amazing.

I've made it about a month vegan, and I have never ever felt better. Don't know why I stopped honestly.