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Old 07-15-2017, 10:14 AM  
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Cuck Canadian PM Attempts Collusion with US Governors to Ditch "America First"

Look what we have here—a foreign govt medding in US policy by reaching out to our State Governors, by-passing the US Constitution which authorizes the Legislative branch (Federal Congress—ya' know The People's House) to regulate trade with foreign countries, between the states, and with Native American nations in Article I, S…ection 8, Clause 3.

I think globalism is ushering in some blurring of national borders and sovereignty but this is a first for a Canadian PM, a country that has been considered a friend.

What is he advocating? Trudeau is urging "thinner borders."

This was done in blatant opposition to the position Trump ran on. The more we integrate with trade agreements, climate accords and international in scope treaties, the more the America will disappear and become just another cog in a sweeping international bureaucracy run by technocrats who get to set themselves up as the kingmakers.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has told governors from across the US to ditch the "America First" motto.

In his speech, Mr Trudeau urged US governors to embrace their neighbour to the north and avoid protectionism.

It is all a part of his aggressive strategy to promote a "thinner border" ahead of vital trade talks with the US renegotiating the Nafta treaty.

"If anything, we would like a thinner border, not a thicker one."

Earlier in the day, Mr Trudeau had talks with governors from Wisconsin, Kentucky, Rhode Island and Iowa.

But over the past several months, Canada has sent everyone from cabinet ministers to provincial premiers to the mayor of Toronto to plead its case.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40612669
The simply erodes national sovereignty and NAFTA is actually loaded with protectionism and socialism. Just another wealth transfer program but between nations.

Trudeau needs to be ridden out on a rail with some tar and feathers on him. Or we should at least do it in effigy.
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Old 07-15-2017, 02:54 PM   #61
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BTW Conservatives in Canada, I see as more like European conservatives. They're not the same thing as American Conservatives. Our notions of liberty are more expansive than such governments. Canada remained with Britain. They're Tories.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:03 PM   #62
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US Constitution: Article 1, Section 10

Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 10 - Powers Prohibited of States


No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation;...

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, ... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, ...

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec10.html
Would you like a Pocket Constitution Mr. Foreign-Canadian?
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:06 PM   #63
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US Constitution: Article 1, Section 10

Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 10 - Powers Prohibited of States


No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation;...

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, ... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, ...

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec10.html
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I don't get what you are implying. Your Constitution has no bearing on me. Take up your gripe with these rogue Governors. Bark up another tree.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:07 PM   #64
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"Our notions...."

Any beginning course on the Constitution and the founding of our nation by a Conservative outfit, will tell you the same thing I just said. Because all other nations get their rights from govt or think that. This is different in the US, our rights precede govt and our notions of liberty have been more expansive than other nations, including Europe despite their Enlightenment era. Those countries grew up under monarchs, we're we as a starting nation did not. In fact, when the Constitution was formed and ratified, it was those nations, including those in the British Commonwealth, who mocked it.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:09 PM   #65
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Any beginning course on the Constitution and the founding of our nation by a Conservative outfit, will tell you the same thing I just said. Because all other nations get their rights from govt or think that. This is different in the US, our rights precede govt and our notions of liberty have been more expansive than other nations, including Europe despite their Enlightenment era. Those countries grew up under monarchs, we're we as a starting nation did not. In fact, when the Constitution was formed and ratified, it was those nations, including those in the British Commonwealth, who mocked it.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:10 PM   #66
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I don't get what you are implying. Your Constitution has no bearing on me. Take up your gripe with these rogue Governors. Bark up another tree.
But it does have bearing on our governors and states. You still haven't gotten it. They shouldn't even be indulging Trudeau which is why I called it meddling, interfering and even collusion which you felt was dramatic.

Go back to your quasi commie country and take Trudeau with you.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:13 PM   #67
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:19 PM   #68
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But it does have bearing on our governors and states. You still haven't gotten it. They shouldn't even be indulging Trudeau which is why I called it meddling, interfering and even collusion which you felt was dramatic.

Go back to your quasi commie country and take Trudeau with you.
Do yourself a favour and re-read the article you linked. Your governors hosted Trudeau in Rhode Island. This typically happens anually. Trudeau's stance is one of maintaining the NAFTA agreement. He is making his pitch as to why. I don't see how this is threatening anything. Different states will have different vested interests in how they approach whether NAFTA works for them or not. Why not be informed of the viewpoint whether in support or against? You turned this into collusion and an attack on the Constitution. I don't see that anywhere.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:23 PM   #69
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It is nauseating, but the reality is that our federal politics don't hit as close to home as our provincial politics do. Thankfully my province of residence is still largely centrist to conservative leaning.
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Do yourself a favour and re-read the article you linked. Your governors hosted Trudeau in Rhode Island. This typically happens anually. Trudeau's stance is one of maintaining the NAFTA agreement. He is making his pitch as to why. I don't see how this is threatening anything. Different states will have different vested interests in how they approach whether NAFTA works for them or not. Why not be informed of the viewpoint whether in support or against? You turned this into collusion and an attack on the Constitution. I don't see that anywhere.
I know what I posted but you've ignored a load of other statements.

The states should not be indulging him under our national laws. Doing things like this to governors, who don't get to form that policy.

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Old 07-15-2017, 06:19 PM   #71
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US Constitution: Article 1, Section 10

Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
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No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation;...

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, ... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, ...

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec10.html
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He's not telling the governors to enact separate treaties with Canada, you dumbass; he's lobbying with them to explain to their constituents and fellow pols why agreements like NAFTA are a net benefit.
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He's not telling the governors to enact separate treaties with Canada, you dumbass; he's lobbying with them to explain to their constituents and fellow pols why agreements like NAFTA are a net benefit.
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He's not telling the governors to enact separate treaties with Canada, you dumbass; he's lobbying with them to explain to their constituents and fellow pols why agreements like NAFTA are a net benefit.
NAFTA is a piece of shit, even Hillary admitted that it needed to be 're-evaluated'

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3705441&page=1
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NAFTA is a piece of shit, even Hillary admitted that it needed to be 're-evaluated'

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3705441&page=1
That's immaterial of the argument BEP is making, which is that he's trying to get them to sign a treaty.
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Republicans from 2009-2016: I think we should leave it up to the states
Republicans in 2017: **** what the states think

Bonus points for the butthurt of throwing collusion into every story now. You are showing those damn delicate snowflakes all about resiliency.
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