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Trump the Lesser's Meeting with Russian Lawyer for Clinton Dirt. Collusion?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/s-donal...on-with-russia

For the past seven months, President Donald Trump and his campaign have been dogged by allegations that they colluded with the Russian government during the presidential election.

Now, there appears to be some evidence supporting the thrust of the allegation.

Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, was offered “damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign,” the New York Times reported Sunday.

On Saturday, Trump Jr., presidential son-in-law and senior advisor Jared Kushner, and then-campaign chair Paul Manafort confirmed that they met with lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya in Trump Tower on June 9, 2016—two days after Clinton clinched the Democratic presidential nomination.

Trump Jr. said in a statement Sunday that Veselnitskaya claimed “she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton.” Trump Jr. said she did not provide additional information.

After Veselnitskaya’s “vague” statement about Clinton, Trump Jr. said, the conversation turned to Russia's freeze of adoptions to the U.S. in retaliation for sanctions against individual Russians under the Magnitsky Act.

The report is the first public account that people associated with the Kremlin offered damaging information on Clinton to Trump—and that Trump’s campaign entertained the offer.

A dossier compiled by ex-British spy Christopher Steele alleged the existence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government during the election, which alleged, among other things, Russia sent damaging information on Clinton sent to the Trump campaign.

The dossier was published in January 2017, days before Trump was inaugurated. Then as now, Trump and members of his campaign denied any involvement with Russia.

The admission by the president’s eldest son comes less than 24 hours after the Trump legal team downplayed the meeting as a courtesy for a friend—and then proposed that the meeting was the result of a Democratic plot to entangle Trump with the Russians.

“It was a short introductory meeting,” Trump Jr. said in a statement on Saturday, in response to the initial story regarding the meeting with Veselnitskaya. “I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up.”

According to the president’s son, he “was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.”

The Washington Post reported on Sunday that the friend in question is music publicist Rob Goldstone, manager of would-be Russian pop star Emin Agalarov, whose developer father was the sponsor of the Miss Universe pageant in 2013, which took place in Moscow.

“Once she presented what she had to say, it was like, ‘Can you keep an eye on it? Should [Trump] be in power, maybe that’s conversation that he may have in the future?’” Goldstone told the Washington Post. Goldstone did not identify the client who requested the meeting’s arrangement.

The Trump team’s initial strategy of dismissing the Veselnitskaya meeting switched to claiming it was a set-up by Democrats apparently using Kremlin operatives to sink the Trump campaign.

“We have learned from both our own investigation and public reports that the participants in the meeting misrepresented who they were and who they worked for,” Mark Corallo, spokesperson for Trump’s outside counsel, said in a statement released a few hours after the original New York Times story published.

“Specifically, we have learned that the person who sought the meeting is associated with Fusion GPS, a firm which according to public reports, was retained by Democratic operatives to develop opposition research on the president and which commissioned the phony Steele dossier,” Corallo continued, referring to the political intelligence firm that hired Steele to compile the dossier on Trump.

“These developments raise serious issues as to exactly who authorized and participated in any effort by Russian nationals to influence our election in any manner,” Corallo concluded.

Poking a hole in Corallo’s supposition is the fact that Fusion GPS had been hired by the law firm to undermine the Magnitsky Act, a 2012 law intended to punish Russian officials allegedly responsible for the death of Russian national Sergei Magnitsky, a tax attorney who uncovered a $230 million tax scam involving senior Russian government officials. Magnitsky was later arrested on the pretext that he was the perpetrator of a separate tax fraud himself, and died under mysterious circumstances.

The Magnitsky Act’s passage in 2012, in addition to other sanctions, helped prompted Russian President Vladimir Putin’s decision to halt the adoption of Russian orphans by American parents—what Trump Jr. has characterized as the “primary” subject of discussion at the Trump Tower meeting.

Rep. Eric Swalwell, a California Democrat who serves on the House Intelligence Committee and has been an aggressive questioner during public hearings regarding Russian attempts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, was incredulous in response to the report.

“Donald Trump and his team had an extraordinary & unprecedented amount of personal, political, financial ties with Russia, at the time Russia was helping his campaign and undermining our democracy,” Swalwell said in a text to The Daily Beast. “Each of those ties, including recently learned meetings between Don Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort with Russians who wanted to damage Hillary Clinton, must be fully investigated.”

Swalwell continued, saying that Trump Jr.’s own claims prove that the Trump team “was willing to work with a foreign adversary to beat an American political opponent. That's a level of betrayal of our country we have never seen in politics.”

Three months after the meeting in Trump Tower, a Republican operative implied he was working Trump campaign adviser Michael Flynn to obtain Clinton's emails from Russian hackers. The Wall Street Journal reported last month that Peter W. Smith told recruits for his project that he was in contact with Flynn and his son.

Flynn and the White House did not respond to requests for comment about the article.

– With additional reporting by Noah Shachtman
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:23 PM   #31
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:23 PM   #32
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So Trump has known about this for 4.5 years and despite access to billions of dollars and any media outlet he wants he has never once said anything about a pedophile ring?
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:25 PM   #33
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Great. Now Hamas has followed Dave Loon and LoneIdiot down the rabbit hole
If Hillary Clinton met with a lawyer connected to North Korea who promised her dirt on Trump and Chelsea Clinton admitted this to a major news agency, your reaction would be?
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:27 PM   #34
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Once upon a time there was a man who said mean things. He defeated the most qualified candidate ever to run for president, and the political establishment, especially on the left, lost its collective mind.

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Old 07-09-2017, 09:30 PM   #35
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:32 PM   #36
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Once upon a time there was a man who said mean things. He defeated the most qualified candidate ever to run for president, and the political establishment, especially on the left, lost its collective mind.

The end.
It's a nice attempt to dodge the question I asked concerning why this incident means nothing regarding Trump, but it's still incredibly transparent.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:33 PM   #37
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Nixon still had a 74% approval rating among Republicans just before he was taken down, and even afterwards he was at 50% among R's. All the reporting in the world won't mean anything to them until it has consequences, and even then a significant chunk won't care. Sad but true.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:38 PM   #38
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No that's not collusion. It's opposition research and all candidates do it, especially the Clintons.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:11 PM   #42
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If Hillary Clinton met with a lawyer connected to North Korea who promised her dirt on Trump and Chelsea Clinton admitted this to a major news agency, your reaction would be?
Hamas, why are you even trying? Save your sanity. Donald Trump could come out and say that he colluded with Russia and you would get the exact same responses in this thread you're getting right now.

There's nothing, literally NOTHING, that could change anyone's mind here.
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So then you don't believe Donald Trump Jr's own statement?
we truly have a pathetic situation among the trumpers
Cochise obviously didn't read anything before commenting...just a knee-jerk reaction to defend trump
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If Hillary Clinton met with a lawyer connected to North Korea who promised her dirt on Trump and Chelsea Clinton admitted this to a major news agency, your reaction would be?
Your reaction would be: "who gives a shit"
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No that's not collusion. It's opposition research and all candidates do it, especially the Clintons.
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