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Old 06-26-2017, 09:45 AM  
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SCOTUS partially reinstates Trump travel ban

Court partly reinstates Trump travel ban, fall arguments set

By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press

The Supreme Court is letting the Trump administration enforce its 90-day ban on travelers from six mostly Muslim countries, overturning lower court orders that blocked it. The action Monday, June 26, 2017, is a victory for President Donald Trump in the biggest legal controversy of his young presidency.


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court is letting a limited version of the Trump administration ban on travel from six mostly Muslim countries to take effect, a victory for President Donald Trump in the biggest legal controversy of his young presidency.

The court said Monday the ban on visitors from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen could be enforced as long as they lack a "credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States." The justices will hear arguments in the case in October.

Trump said last week that the ban would take effect 72 hours after being cleared by courts.

The Trump administration said the 90-day ban was needed to allow an internal review of the screening procedures for visa applicants from those countries. That review should be complete before Oct. 2, the first day the justices could hear arguments in their new term.

A 120-ban on refugees also is being allowed to take effect on a limited basis. Three of the court's conservative justices said they would have let the complete bans take effect.

Justice Clarence Thomas, joined by Justices Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch, said the government has shown it is likely to succeed on the merits of the case, and that it will suffer irreparable harm with any interference. Thomas said the government's interest in preserving national security outweighs any hardship to people denied entry into the country.

Two federal appeals courts had blocked the travel policy, which Trump announced a week after he took office in January and revised in March after setbacks in court.

The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, said the ban was "rooted in religious animus" toward Muslims and pointed to Trump's campaign promise to impose a ban on Muslims entering the country as well as tweets and remarks he has made since becoming president.

The San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the travel policy does not comply with federal immigration law, including a prohibition on nationality-based discrimination. That court also put a hold on separate aspects of the policy that would keep all refugees out of the United States for 120 days and cut by more than half, from 110,000 to 50,000, the cap on refugees in the current government spending year that ends September 30.

Trump's first executive order on travel applied to travelers from the six countries as well as Iraq, and took effect immediately, causing chaos and panic at airports over the last weekend in January as the Homeland Security Department scrambled to figure out who the order covered and how it was to be implemented.

A federal judge blocked it eight days later, an order that was upheld by a 9th circuit panel. Rather than pursue an appeal, the administration said it would revise the policy.
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Old 06-26-2017, 02:29 PM   #46
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They are still in violation of the Law. You are making an inane distinction.
Inane distinction is what law is all about.

We tried making all undocumented aliens illegal in the bush administration. It didn't pass.
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Old 06-26-2017, 02:44 PM   #47
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What opinions has he rendered to date?

We may even have someone to replace Kennedy by then—but I think he would support the ban, being that such bans have never been struck down before.
He was one of 3 that thought the entire order was ok and should move forward as is...

Also here's a good article on his decisions and votes so far:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-trump-so-far/
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Old 06-26-2017, 04:04 PM   #48
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I actually defending what the law actually says.

You go ahead a defend the fiction you think it does though.
Go play your bullshit games with someone else.
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Old 06-26-2017, 10:29 PM   #49
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Old 06-26-2017, 10:34 PM   #50
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:13 PM   #51
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I wonder how many law abiding Americans will have their cars and businesses burned when the Dems hold protest rallies over this?
Sad but true.
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Old 07-15-2017, 01:30 AM   #52
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They chose not to reject it about a significant chunk of the ban, which is what led to this part of the article



Basically, and only from what's come out publicly so far (I've not read the actual text yet), the ban seems only to have been overturned in those instances where there's no possible person/institution who can claim standing to object.

Edit: I just read the document. I can't be sure if this is the court hoping that the issue will be moot, so that it can avoid having to fully overturn all those courts (a major embarrassment for the judiciary if it happens), or it's just the court setting up an opportunity to give a "final" ruling in this area, but my guess is that it's more likely to be the former than the latter.
So a Hawaii judge ruled against the interpretation of the Fed, as Thomas expected, and now this is back in the hands of the Supremes.

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The Justice Department moved quickly on Friday to appeal a federal judge’s latest ruling trimming President Donald Trump’s temporary travel ban, while the administration is separately laying the groundwork for new and broader restrictions.

The latest chapter in the fast-moving saga began Thursday evening in Honolulu, where U.S. District Judge Derrick Watson ruled that the Trump administration’s recent implementation of its ban contradicted the interim rules put in place by the Supreme Court on June 26.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-a...ing-1500072777
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:06 PM   #53
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So a Hawaii judge ruled against the interpretation of the Fed, as Thomas expected, and now this is back in the hands of the Supremes.



https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-a...ing-1500072777
Simple solution: make Hawaii your newest port of entry. They can then handle and administer over the waves of immigrants they are going to bat for here.
You wonder if the tune would change?
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Simple solution: make Hawaii your newest port of entry. They can then handle and administer over the waves of immigrants they are going to bat for here.
You wonder if the tune would change?
Since the judge lives in a gated community, he prolly doesn't give a shit. Activist judges like this dickhead never seem to pay for their bad decisions.
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