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Old 08-04-2015, 06:10 PM  
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Seattle became the first city in the nation to implement the $15 per hour minimum wage this past spring. Fox News reports that one unintended effect is that workers who are earning the higher wage are asking for fewer hours, so they can remain eligible for low income government benefits like childcare and tax credits.

Full Life Care, a home nursing nonprofit, told KIRO-TV in Seattle that several workers want to work less.

Local radio talk show host Jason Rantz on KIRO-FM noted the irony: “If [employees] cut down their hours to stay on those subsidies because the $15 per hour minimum wage didn’t actually help get them out of poverty, all you’ve done is put a burden on the business and given false hope to a lot of people.”

“Despite a booming economy throughout western Washington, the state’s welfare caseload has dropped very little since the higher wage phase began in Seattle in April. In March 130,851 people were enrolled in the Basic Food program. In April, the caseload dropped to 130,376,” according to Fox News.

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“Some restaurants have tacked on a 15 percent surcharge to cover the higher wages. And some managers are no longer encouraging customers to tip, leading to a redistribution of income. Workers in the back of the kitchen, such as dishwashers and cooks, are getting paid more, but servers who rely on tips are seeing a pay cut,” Fox News reported.

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Earlier this year, as the implementation of the minimum wage law loomed, Seattle Magazine noted that something appeared to be afoot affecting the restaurant industry in the city, asking: “Why Are So Many Seattle Restaurants Closing Lately? “Seattle foodies [are] downcast,” the magazine reported

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The magazine went on to report that one “major factor affecting restaurant futures in our city is the impending minimum wage hike.” Anthony Anton, president and CEO of the Washington Restaurant Association, told the magazine: “It’s not a political problem; it’s a math problem.” He estimates that restaurants usually have a budget breakdown of about 36 percent for labor, 30 percent for food costs, and 30 percent to cover other operational costs. That leaves 4 percent for a profit margin. When labor costs shoot up to, say 42 percent, something has to give.

Shah Burnham is just one Seattle restaurant owner who believes that keeping her doors open is no longer worth it. She owns a popular Z Pizza restaurant location and says that even though her one store only has 12 employees, she’s considered part of the Z Pizza franchise — a large business. So she has to give raises within the next two years. “Small businesses in the city have up to six more years to phase in the new $15 an hour minimum wage,” according to Seattle’s Fox News 13.

“I know that I would have stayed here if I had 7 years, just like everyone else, if I had an even playing field,” she says. “The discrimination I’m feeling right now against my small business makes me not want to stay and do anything in Seattle.”

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The Heritage Foundation notes the minimum wage is usually for new workers, with a low percentage of Americans receiving it. The organization also points out some other interesting statistics:

Over half of minimum-wage earners are between the ages of 16 and 24.
Two-thirds of minimum-wage workers earn raises within a year—without the government’s help.
Only 2.9 percent of wage earners earn the federal minimum wage.
Most minimum-wage earners are teenagers or young adults, not heads of families.
Two-thirds work part time (defined as less than 35 hours a week).
Two-thirds of minimum-wage workers live in families with incomes above 150 percent of the poverty line.
Just 4 percent of minimum-wage workers are single parents working full time, compared to 5.6 percent of all U.S. workers.

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Old 08-04-2015, 06:16 PM   #2
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Any hard numbers showing the unemployment rate in Seattle?
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Old 08-04-2015, 06:17 PM   #3
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Old 08-04-2015, 06:17 PM   #4
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Old 08-04-2015, 06:22 PM   #5
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The market will adjust and the strong will survive. (R) thinking right there from eDave.
You mean that the market will adjust by prices going up and inflation making it so everybody was right where they were before.
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Old 08-04-2015, 06:25 PM   #6
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You mean that the market will adjust by prices going up and inflation making it so everybody was right where they were before.
How much inflation? Like a nickel? I do not worry about such trivial numbers.
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Old 08-04-2015, 06:36 PM   #7
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FWIW, here is their unemployment by month. It will be interesting to watch.

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Old 08-04-2015, 08:17 PM   #8
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Paramedic Shares Awesome Facebook Post About Minimum Wage Increase
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Jens Rushing, like so many people, took to Facebook to rant about something. Rushing, a paramedic, wrote an angry post about fast food workers winning a $15/hr wage that has since gone viral. But instead of getting angry that his skilled job only pays him the same amount, he stood in solidarity with the underpaid workers and had this to say to everyone complaining about the wage increase: “That's exactly what the bosses want! They want us fighting over who has the bigger pile of crumbs so we don't realize they made off with almost the whole damn cake.”

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Fast food workers in NY just won a $15/hr wage.

I'm a paramedic. My job requires a broad set of skills: interpersonal, medical, and technical skills, as well as the crucial skill of performing under pressure. I often make decisions on my own, in seconds, under chaotic circumstances, that impact people's health and lives. I make $15/hr.

And these burger flippers think they deserve as much as me?

Good for them.

Look, if any job is going to take up someone's life, it deserves a living wage. If a job exists and you have to hire someone to do it, they deserve a living wage. End of story. There's a lot of talk going around my workplace along the lines of, “These guys with no education and no skills think they deserve as much as us? **** those guys.” And elsewhere on FB: “I'm a licensed electrician, I make $13/hr, **** these burger flippers.”

And that's exactly what the bosses want! They want us fighting over who has the bigger pile of crumbs so we don't realize they made off with almost the whole damn cake. Why are you angry about fast food workers making two bucks more an hour when your CEO makes four hundred TIMES what you do? It's in the bosses' interests to keep your anger directed downward, at the poor people who are just trying to get by, like you, rather than at the rich assholes who consume almost everything we produce and give next to nothing for it.

My company, as they're so fond of telling us in boosterist emails, cleared 1.3 billion dollars last year. They expect guys supporting families on 26-27k/year to applaud that. And that's to say nothing of the techs and janitors and cashiers and bed pushers who make even less than us, but they are as absolutely crucial to making a hospital work as the ****ing CEO or the neurosurgeons. Can they pay us more? Absolutely. But why would they? No one's making them.

The workers in NY *made* them. They fought for and won a living wage. So how incredibly petty and counterproductive is it to fuss that their pile of crumbs is bigger than ours? Put that energy elsewhere. Organize. Fight. Win.
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How much inflation? Like a nickel? I do not worry about such trivial numbers.
Prices will go up until labor is once again about a third of the revenue.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:28 PM   #10
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Prices will go up until labor is once again about a third of the revenue.
So a dollar on average maybe? Dunno. But I don't mind if it affords others a living wage. Honest engine.

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Old 08-04-2015, 09:34 PM   #11
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I thought Hispanic labor was supposed to solve this argument? They keep prices low by working for peanuts right? "Who will cook our food and wash our dishes" kinda thingy. Now we hear that it isn't the goal, and higher wages are only fair. Which is it?
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I thought Hispanic labor was supposed to solve this argument? They keep prices low by working for peanuts right? "Who will cook our food and wash our dishes" kinda thingy. Now we hear that it isn't the goal, and higher wages are only fair. Which is it?
Perhaps higher minimums will attract more entitled white kids, thus slowing immigration due to lack of jobs.

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Oh, I wish that were true. I'd prefer to keep it at $8-9 and still force those brats to get a job. But then I'm out of step with America today.
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So a dollar on average maybe? Dunno. But I don't mind if it affords others a living wage. Honest engine.

I've been lucky and blessed. Others have not.
People get paid based on their marginal value productivity. You're not lucky or blessed. Your pay is likely based on that. You likely did things to put you in that category too. It should be for others instead of sympathy that others just need more.
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Oh, I wish that were true. I'd prefer to keep it at $8-9 and still force those brats to get a job. But then I'm out of step with America today.
Too low.
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