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Old 07-12-2017, 01:01 PM  
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:15 AM   #226
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I can kind of see why the families may have been upset. He mentioned racism and every race except the one of those who were killed, by a violent racist. At their funeral.

If i'm a grieving relative, that would sure as heck rub me the wrong way.

I saw nothing wrong with the earlier quotes from Lex. These are a little more dicey, and open to justifiable criticism. IMO.
Perhaps the funeral of five fallen officers, at the hands of one of America's worst hate groups, is a time to reflect on the bravery of our men and women in blue, not talk about the made-up bullshit the hate groups uses to motivate themselves. Again, the way his hand-picked people handled situations like Ferguson and Baltimore, taking the side of the shitty people and all but shitting of the people who risk their lives every day, is the nuance that would lead any normal person to conclude he wasn't on the cop's side. Ever. Add that he surrounded himself (took advice from) complete assholes like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, two of America's worst race baiters, and it's clear he had his priorities wrong.

In so many cases, Barry acted stupidly...
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:59 AM   #227
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I can kind of see why the families may have been upset. He mentioned racism and every race except the one of those who were killed, by a violent racist. At their funeral.

If i'm a grieving relative, that would sure as heck rub me the wrong way.

I saw nothing wrong with the earlier quotes from Lex. These are a little more dicey, and open to justifiable criticism. IMO.
There is nothing I have seen to suggest the families were upset by his speech. And again, you can maybe prefer he not have said this or that during the speech and that's fine. Everybody sees it differently. But to go as far as some in saying he was race-baiting or promoting violence against cops, that's gross and wrong.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:29 AM   #228
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shit like this. ugh
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I actually agree with you here.
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:05 PM   #230
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Holy shit @ the bolded quotes New World Order posted. THAT'S how Obama race baited and fostered this race division?

You were better off sticking with the trayvon quote as your proof.
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:06 PM   #231
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Of course you didn't bother to read it. That is why you will always be a low information voter.
Did you read the quotes in the link I posted? The one you claimed did not contain direct quotes from obama supporting the claim he was mixing in race-baiting and u sing the occasion of mudered policeman to further his racial, anti-white agenda?

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Holy shit @ the bolded quotes New World Order posted. THAT'S how Obama race baited and fostered this race division?

You were better off sticking with the trayvon quote as your proof.
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:22 PM   #233
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Holy shit @ the bolded quotes New World Order posted. THAT'S how Obama race baited and fostered this race division?

You were better off sticking with the trayvon quote as your proof.
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That verbiage belongs in a black lives matter or malcolm x society meeting or some other fringe society that likes to bitch and wail but will never go anywhere.

Keep that shit out of our public speeches especially from the Potus and double especially at a murdered officer's funeral.
It doesn't belong.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:49 PM   #236
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Did you read the quotes in the link I posted? The one you claimed did not contain direct quotes from obama supporting the claim he was mixing in race-baiting and u sing the occasion of mudered policeman to further his racial, anti-white agenda?
Any historian will tell you that a primary source is far more reliable and far more significant than a secondary source. I read the entire speech that Obama gave that day just like you could have done. After reading the speech, I concluded that Obama's speech was respectful of the police, and it contained no race-baiting at all. I even provided multiple direct quotes from the speech to back up my conclusion. That's what using a primary source is all about.

You quoted an editorial from The Daily Caller that was someone else's interpretation of the speech. That's a secondary source that was so contaminated by the opinion of the author that it's essentially worthless. The fact that you would attempt to use someone else's interpretation of the speech rather than the speech itself is very telling. That's what people do who choose not to think for themselves. It shows tribalism and extreme partisanship.

If you're going to claim that Obama was "using the occasion of murdered policeman to further his racial, anti-white agenda", then how about backing up your claim with actual quotes from what Obama said? Is that really too much to ask?

If you can't provide a single quote from Obama's speech to support your argument, what does that tell you?
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My premiums went up too, and I was pretty pissed off about it. That doesn't mean I like the notion of a knee-jerk reaction such as the legislation I've seen so far from the Republicans to make things worse.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:03 PM   #239
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My premiums went up too, and I was pretty pissed off about it. That doesn't mean I like the notion of a knee-jerk reaction such as the legislation I've seen so far from the Republicans to make things worse.
They're going to raise your premiums?
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:46 PM   #240
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Yes, but mostly no.

Health care inflation growth rate is the lowest since 1960- when they started tracking the data.



Employers are passing on a higher share percentage of health plan benefits to employees at the same time not offsetting wage increases for the additional cost - of any other cost of living inflation levels. Drug rx prices are going through the roof- the largest lobby in America is pharma. At the same time, the percentage of people who have at least one prescription is at an all time high, and almost half the US has 3 or more prescriptions filled per month. Double dipping profits by way of Prescription Benefits Managers add another layer of cost and intentionally bilk insurance companies from leveraging their subscribers within the insurance pools in bargaining for lower rates. That doesn't even address record profits by the big 5 insurance companies.

The reality is that health insurance has been an insulated cost with little price sensitivity because the consumers were using it with little to no clue what it cost or how those costs changed and increases. As businesses trimmed benefits packages to save money, they have been trimming benefits coverage as well as increasing the cost sharing responsibilities of the employees when seeking services.
Obama wasn't the cause of your premiums to rise, at least not in the sense that you attribute it. Rubio sponsored legislation to defund risk corridor reinsurance, the refusal by almost half the states to expand medicaid, and Republican efforts to sabotage the ACA had 20x more effect on the market instability that caused premiums to rise. In addition, insurance companies grossly miscalculated the intro rates the 1st year approximating the risk pools population mix. Some insurance companies definitely were shady in how they created certain pools that would take excessive losses as a means to use as PR and justify excess rate increases by pointing to plans A and B taking major losses, but conveniently not mentioning that plans C, D, E, F... through Z all made buttloads of cash, and that they were having record profits year over year.
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