Chiefs Derrick Johnson's Tender Level Could Speak To Future With The Chiefs

T-post Tom · 03-04-2010, 01:12 AM

Derrick Johnson's Tender Level Could Speak To Future With The Chiefs
by Joel Thorman

The Kansas City Chiefs will more than likely offer a tender to restricted free agent Derrick Johnson before the onset of free agency tomorrow night. What we don't know is what level that will be at.

Since there is expected to be a lot more movement going on in the restricted free agent market, tender levels can say a lot about a player, according to Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post.

"If a team is interested in trading a player," Lombardi writes, "it might lower the tender and make it attractive for a team to come in and make an offer. If a team tenders a first and a third, most teams will back off, but if they tender just a first rounder, there might be more action."

Insert DJ's name in there and see what happens.

If the Chiefs are interested in keeping him, they could tender him at a first and third round pick and some teams might shy away. However, if they tender him at just the first round pick level, there could be some teams inquiring about his availability.

So, keep an eye on DJ's tender level. There's been plenty of speculation swirling regarding his future with the team.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3...s-tender-level

KCrockaholic · 03-04-2010, 01:16 AM

I say it will be a second round tender.

Pushead2 · 03-04-2010, 01:22 AM

2nd or 3rd.

bowener · 03-04-2010, 01:25 AM

If somebody gives us a 2nd for him, send his ass packing and trade for Kirk Morrison or Greg Olsen.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-04-2010, 01:26 AM

If the Chiefs could get a fourth for DJ with all the defensive talent in the upcoming draft, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

Of course, Pioli would probably take another project CB or a punter.

KCrockaholic · 03-04-2010, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener

If somebody gives us a 2nd for him, send his ass packing and trade for Kirk Morrison or Greg Olsen.

Or Boldin and another pick to go along with him.

Micjones · 03-04-2010, 01:35 AM

Set it at a 3rd and see who bites...
If you have a taker for a #3... I let him fly.
You can replace him in April. And having 4 picks in Rounds 2 & 3 would be BIG!

**AustinChief** · 03-04-2010, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If the Chiefs could get a fourth for DJ with all the defensive talent in the upcoming draft, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

Of course, Pioli would probably take another project CB or a punter.

WAY undervalue. DJ i s worth more. and this regime knows it.

**the Talking Can** · 03-04-2010, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener

If somebody gives us a 2nd for him, send his ass packing and trade for Kirk Morrison or Greg Olsen.

if someone offers a 2nd, you say yes just as soon as you can control your hysterical laughter....

Saccopoo · 03-04-2010, 05:24 AM

A 2nd?

Fujita, playing the SAM backer position (the same one that DJ was drafted to play) for the Chiefs, led the team in tackles for two straight seasons. (BTW - He was the starting SAM backer for the Super Bowl Champions this past year.)

Then, after his third year in the league and coming into his prime, was traded for a sixth round pick.

A sixth round pick. For a guy that leads the team in tackles for two seasons and ends up winning a Super Bowl as the starting SAM backer for the Super Bowl winning team.

And you think that someone out there is going to give you a second round pick for DJ?

**BossChief** · 03-04-2010, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If the Chiefs could get a fourth for DJ with all the defensive talent in the upcoming draft, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

Of course, Pioli would probably take another project CB or a punter.

a fourth is not nearly enough for a player with his upside.

I would trade him for a 2nd, but not less to be honest.

I want to see him with good coaching and Gibbs is that guy.

I still think DJ can be a star.

**AustinChief** · 03-04-2010, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

A 2nd?

Fujita, playing the SAM backer position (the same one that DJ was drafted to play) for the Chiefs, led the team in tackles for two straight seasons. (BTW - He was the starting SAM backer for the Super Bowl Champions this past year.)

Then, after his third year in the league and coming into his prime, was traded for a sixth round pick.

A sixth round pick. For a guy that leads the team in tackles for two seasons and ends up winning a Super Bowl as the starting SAM backer for the Super Bowl winning team.

And you think that someone out there is going to give you a second round pick for DJ?

Hopefully not... DJ is an amazing athlete and if WELL COACHED is worth a hell of a lot. If we took anything less than a 2nd.. we got robbed.

**BossChief** · 03-04-2010, 05:48 AM

DJ hasnt had a single competent LB coach in all the time he has been a Chief and now has Parcells old LB coach who has a long history of success in the NFL.

I am actually excited to see what he plays like next year under better coaching and surely a few better players around him.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-04-2010, 07:25 AM

Since DJ was a first round pick, I believe the lowest that you can tender him is a first round tender. The lowest tender you can do nets you the same round pick that you gave up. There are first round tenders, first and third round tenders, second round tenders, and the lowest is a tender that returns whatever round you drafted them in.

I don't know if the Chiefs can give him a second round tender since he was a first round pick, but I know they can't go any lower than that, because the only other possibly lower option is the tender that returns the same round pick you gave up, and that would be a first.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-04-2010, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

A 2nd?

Fujita, playing the SAM backer position (the same one that DJ was drafted to play) for the Chiefs, led the team in tackles for two straight seasons. (BTW - He was the starting SAM backer for the Super Bowl Champions this past year.)

Then, after his third year in the league and coming into his prime, was traded for a sixth round pick.

A sixth round pick. For a guy that leads the team in tackles for two seasons and ends up winning a Super Bowl as the starting SAM backer for the Super Bowl winning team.

And you think that someone out there is going to give you a second round pick for DJ?

Two completely different talents and situations.

First, the Chiefs didn't trade Fujita until September, which was after training camp and everyone knew he was probably going to get cut anyways. And, all the teams rosters were pretty much set, and as mentioned above, training camp was over. So, he wouldn't be ready to produce for a few weeks.

Second, the Chiefs got two picks for him, not just one. They got a sixth round pick, and I believe a fifth in 2007, but it was conditional and I can't quite remember.

Now, the other part of this is that Fujita is a 'good' talent. DJ is a 'great' talent. DJ has far more ability than Fujita. Like it or not, coaches always believe they can get the most out of a player.

So, a second round pick is not a stretch. They can put the first round tender on him and then trade him for whatever round pick they feel is an acceptable offer. I am not saying that it WILL happen, but the these are totally different situations.

03-04-2010, 01:12 AM
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4607293	Derrick Johnson's Tender Level Could Speak To Future With The Chiefs Derrick Johnson's Tender Level Could Speak To Future With The Chiefs by Joel Thorman The Kansas City Chiefs will more than likely offer a tender to restricted free agent Derrick Johnson before the onset of free agency tomorrow night. What we don't know is what level that will be at. Since there is expected to be a lot more movement going on in the restricted free agent market, tender levels can say a lot about a player, according to Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post. "If a team is interested in trading a player," Lombardi writes, "it might lower the tender and make it attractive for a team to come in and make an offer. If a team tenders a first and a third, most teams will back off, but if they tender just a first rounder, there might be more action." Insert DJ's name in there and see what happens. If the Chiefs are interested in keeping him, they could tender him at a first and third round pick and some teams might shy away. However, if they tender him at just the first round pick level, there could be some teams inquiring about his availability. So, keep an eye on DJ's tender level. There's been plenty of speculation swirling regarding his future with the team. http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3...s-tender-level
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03-04-2010, 01:16 AM	#2
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4802900	I say it will be a second round tender.
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Pushead2 **** off Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York Casino cash: $7401882	2nd or 3rd. __________________ "**** up once, lose two teeth....”
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bowener BAMF! Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $9549897	If somebody gives us a 2nd for him, send his ass packing and trade for Kirk Morrison or Greg Olsen. __________________ Main Entry: bowe·ner Pronunciation: \ˈbō-nər\ Function: noun Date: circa 2007
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DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	If the Chiefs could get a fourth for DJ with all the defensive talent in the upcoming draft, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Of course, Pioli would probably take another project CB or a punter.
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03-04-2010, 01:35 AM	#7
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	Set it at a 3rd and see who bites... If you have a taker for a #3... I let him fly. You can replace him in April. And having 4 picks in Rounds 2 & 3 would be BIG! __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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03-04-2010, 05:24 AM	#10
Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	A 2nd? Fujita, playing the SAM backer position (the same one that DJ was drafted to play) for the Chiefs, led the team in tackles for two straight seasons. (BTW - He was the starting SAM backer for the Super Bowl Champions this past year.) Then, after his third year in the league and coming into his prime, was traded for a sixth round pick. A sixth round pick. For a guy that leads the team in tackles for two seasons and ends up winning a Super Bowl as the starting SAM backer for the Super Bowl winning team. And you think that someone out there is going to give you a second round pick for DJ?
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03-04-2010, 05:48 AM	#13
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1914088	DJ hasnt had a single competent LB coach in all the time he has been a Chief and now has Parcells old LB coach who has a long history of success in the NFL. I am actually excited to see what he plays like next year under better coaching and surely a few better players around him. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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03-04-2010, 07:25 AM	#14
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Since DJ was a first round pick, I believe the lowest that you can tender him is a first round tender. The lowest tender you can do nets you the same round pick that you gave up. There are first round tenders, first and third round tenders, second round tenders, and the lowest is a tender that returns whatever round you drafted them in. I don't know if the Chiefs can give him a second round tender since he was a first round pick, but I know they can't go any lower than that, because the only other possibly lower option is the tender that returns the same round pick you gave up, and that would be a first.
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