Help me buy my next car

[Hoover]

The other car thread got me thinking that maybe I should ask you guys what kind of car I should buy.

Here is what you need to know.

1. I have a wife, son, and 105 lb dog (GSD).
2. I live in Iowa, so I don't want anything that would suck in bad weather.
3. My wife drives a Subaru Outback. I love it. Awesome car in shitty weather, and since its AWD, there is no guess work when to use 4WD. We have a divered so the dog stays out of the front.
4. We don't really travel with the dog, but we take her down the road to hang out with my father-in-laws GSD every day, so she's in the car twice a day.

What I'm looking for.

1. I want a vehicle with some size. If we were going to load up and go on a trip, I want a vehicle that has some cargo space.

2. Need decent gas mileage, but realize what I'll get with AWD of 4WD

3. If its over 6000, I would qualify for a business tax deduction.

4. I entertain clients, so needs to be nice.

Vehicles I've thought about.

1. New Ford F150, Chevy, GMC, Ram. - Crew Cab short box throw a topper on it for the dog. Like the idea of keeping the cabin clean.

2. I can't believe what the new Tahoes and Surburbans go for.

3. Larger mid-size SUVs, GMC Arcadia, Ford Explorer, really any mid-size SUV, would do.

4. Somedays I'm like fu@k it, and just get another Outback, but I know I'll miss the size.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by hometeam

He didnt start in the car business until recently, worked at a competitor that I previously worked at, and is now at a different Machens store.

I know him on a sales group on Facebook. He was at a Honda store, but he bitches wherever he's at which always means "low closer". Seems like a nice enough guy though.

[Ming the Merciless]

Thanks man

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Yeah. That's what I thought. Sales guys get used for information all the time. As if we're supposed to provide knowledge for free. No one else on Earth is expected to do that, and it's okay. We make incredible incomes doing what we do, it's just something I figured would be predictable being here as long as I have, and I'm not remotely shocked that I was more than right in my assessment. Psychological salesmanship.

Im not really a salesman but I get it too. I've gotten several.customers from here but I've given out more advice.

Never once thought twice about it.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I know him on a sales group on Facebook. He was at a Honda store, but he bitches wherever he's at which always means "low closer". Seems like a nice enough guy though.

I'm not going to hammer him too bad, but hes extremely verbose about a business that he still doesnt understand fully.

He is HIGHLY active in local social media and really wears me out on a number of subjects I see him posting about lol.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Im not really a salesman but I get it too. I've gotten several.customers from here but I've given out more advice.

Never once thought twice about it.

You can't. And you're absolutely in sales. It's part of being passionate about what you do. As a fellow sales rep on the outside looking in though, we should be empathetic to one another.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by hometeam

I'm not going to hammer him too bad, but hes extremely verbose about a business that he still doesnt understand fully.

He is HIGHLY active in local social media and really wears me out on a number of subjects I see him posting about lol.

You know him!!!

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

What year? 2010-2013 they were the worst rated suv iirc. Anything newer they don't know yet lol.


Ac issues, p/s issues, suspension issues, electrical issues, water pump issues...

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. If I get one identified, I'll shoot you a smoke.

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Yeah. That's what I thought. Sales guys get used for information all the time. As if we're supposed to provide knowledge for free. No one else on Earth is expected to do that, and it's okay. We make incredible incomes doing what we do, it's just something I figured would be predictable being here as long as I have, and I'm not remotely shocked that I was more than right in my assessment. Psychological salesmanship.

People ask me shit all the time. And most of the times, it is my direct competitors. You wanna talk crazy, helping the competition.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

You can't. And you're absolutely in sales. It's part of being passionate about what you do. As a fellow sales rep on the outside looking in though, we should be empathetic to one another.

Oh trust me I am.

I tell everyone looking to call hometeam.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. If I get one identified, I'll shoot you a smoke.



People ask me shit all the time. And most of the times, it is my direct competitors. You wanna talk crazy, helping the competition.

I had another local shop call me just last week asking what I thought about one.

Makes you feel good, that's for sure.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Got to make enough money to make the change.,

And by change I mean convert his tat to a Justin Beiber tat so it looks less gay

Hey.. I just saw this.


suck it hater~

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Oh trust me I am.

I tell everyone looking to call hometeam.

My man!!!

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. If I get one identified, I'll shoot you a smoke.



People ask me shit all the time. And most of the times, it is my direct competitors. You wanna talk crazy, helping the competition.

It's completely impossible in my industry, but I'm surrounded by ****ing snake oil salesman that are trying to convince you they're your best friend the same way they're trying to scam their clients the same thing. I work in a ****ing bad guy world. Just trying to be a good guy.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by hometeam

I'm not going to hammer him too bad, but hes extremely verbose about a business that he still doesnt understand fully.

He is HIGHLY active in local social media and really wears me out on a number of subjects I see him posting about lol.

I fear he's going to google his name and see this in the next 4 hours.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I don't know shit about cars. If I were to start selling them, I'd be starting all over considering I think master closers are masters at product knowledge. I commend you Hometeam, and Jasonsauto for being in love with what you do.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by hometeam

I'm not a salesman. I am a professional with 15 years in this industry under my belt, working for Ford, Nissan, Hyundai, and an independent dealer, as both a salesperson and a service advisor. I eat, sleep, breathe vehicles, I touch, train, and learn about them, all day every day. I have Honda, a Pontiac, and a Ford in my driveway. I calls em like I sees em regardless of brand.

As for this idea about F-150s; Ford makes the best truck on the road period. Silverado is close, Ram is farther away, and Tundras are hanging out way at the back of the pack after Titans~

Compared to a Ridgeline, An F-150 has more room, more power, more tow capacity, more utility, more off road capability, better ride, better bed size, similar fuel mileage. And, because Ridgelines are pricey and hold value well, they are also comparably priced as a full size truck.

The other brand trucks don't have near as much rear leg room as an F-150, nor the fuel mileage, but they pretty much beat out Ridgelines at the same price point as well.

You sound like a pompous old GM I used to work for. LOL. Eh, whatever floats your boat man. I sold cars for a few years too. Dodge, Nissan, Ford, Toyota, and Volkswagen + used everything.

Ford is great for people that don't actually use their truck for real work, the new aluminum just doesn't hold up to the pounding. Sounds fine for what Hoover is looking for, BUT an F150 is still a gigantic leap in size and handling difference from a Subaru Outback as compared to what a Ridgeline will offer him. Especially considering he is still looking at SUVs.

It's a crossover option between the two that he should at least look into instead of being ramrodded with "get an F150." I've never rode in a Ford with a better ride than a Ridgeline, but to each their own. Plus the Ridgeline is available with AWD, something he's used to. And 280 hp and 26 mpg highway is nothing to sneeze at.

Edit: I should say the aluminum doesn't hold up in some cases ( I shouldn't make brash claims ), but I've seen guys working in the woods tear that shit up pretty bad. Other than that, seems ok for the average guy.