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Old 06-06-2017, 08:51 PM  
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Salary Cap: Yes Or No?
One of the guys on 610 this afternoon was railing against the salary cap. He claimed it was not needed because the NFL has more cash than the MLB and NBA combined. I got the feeling it was all because of Maclin being released. He was claiming you can build even better teams without the cap.


Personally I like the cap. While cash profit is not an issue, cash in the form of what teams spend on players does effect the game. I like that the money is part of the rules. I'd like to see MLB do the same as the NFL.
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Old 06-07-2017, 11:28 AM   #31
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I think his point was (And I hear Colin Cowturd say this about Green Bay) Players would choose to go to bigger cities and bigger markets.
It's a bogus argument.

Even if there isn't a Salary Cap (which will NEVER happen, as the NFLPA wouldn't allow it), there's still limited income. None of these owners want to LOSE money.

Also, every free agency signing, big or not, doesn't work out perfectly for the player or team even 50% of the time. Has Suh led the Dolphins to a playoff win? How about that Brock Osweiler?

There's an endless list of free agent busts and even bigger market teams like the Giants, Jets, Dolphins and 49er's have fiscally conservative owners that aren't going to spend 70% of their gross income for a few superstar players when 28 other teams are spending 48-50%.

Proof? Guys are willing to play for little to nothing in New England, just to get a ring.
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Old 06-07-2017, 11:50 AM   #32
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It is a weird irony that MLB, without a salary cap has had more parity during the past decade than the NFL or NBA.

Look at how many different teams have been in the World Series during the past 10 years... including small market teams such as the Royals, Tampa, and Colorado.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:01 PM   #33
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Proof? Guys are willing to play for little to nothing in New England, just to get a ring.
That and guys will play for anything because it is a job, a job which pays more than bagging groceries or flipping burgers which sadly is all most of these guys would be doing for legal employment anyway.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:05 PM   #34
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I disagree. I think it works for the NFL because salaries aren't guaranteed. Baseball salaries are perfect. It leads to big markets over spending for players non elite years. In baseball the first 6 years are normally the most valuable and those are protected to the team regardless of location or payroll.

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Old 06-07-2017, 12:11 PM   #35
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I don't think the Chiefs would be a "rich" team. Salary cap gives you a better chance at dynasty, whereas in the MLB its so difficult for a team like the Royals to dominate for a decade. That 2 year run was fantastic, but I wish they had a few more contending years.

Salary cap is awesome
The cap is a Dynasty killer, it is meant to even the playing field. Belly is the outlier but they cheated and he understands how to manage the cap and when he can afford to dump a key high paid vet and still win. It is a hard thing to do and they are the only ones who have done it and even then they had years were they were not the best team in the NFL and had to play guys like Rechee Caldwell so they could afford Randy Moss the next year.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:14 PM   #36
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:57 PM   #37
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What's the percent including the last 6 years? MLB has seen recent success of Pirates, Royals, Rays and A's in the last decade or so. Not necessarily in just championships. There has been some surprising teams in the mix for playoffs, etc. Just judging champions MLB has had 15 teams win a championship since 90. The NFL has seen 14 different teams in that span.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:14 PM   #38
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I like the concept of a salary cap, but the contracts need to be more transparent. X years for Y dollars. I'm sure that some teams are gaming the system with complex contract language.

Plus, you have to be diligent about teams that cheat on the salary cap and punish them severely for cheating. Don't just take away a draft pick. Take away their 1997 and 1998 Lombardi trophies and give them to the NFC team that didn't cheat.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:17 PM   #39
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The cap is a Dynasty killer
That's why the Patriots have won 14 out of 15 Division titles, 9 Conference Championship appearances, 7 Super Bowl appearances and 5 Super Bowl Wins.

Because the Salary Cap is a Dynasty "killer".



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The cap is a Dynasty killer, it is meant to even the playing field. Belly is the outlier but they cheated and he understands how to manage the cap and when he can afford to dump a key high paid vet and still win. It is a hard thing to do and they are the only ones who have done it and even then they had years were they were not the best team in the NFL and had to play guys like Rechee Caldwell so they could afford Randy Moss the next year.
A Donk fan talking about another team cheating. Oh the irony. SMH
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A Donk fan talking about another team cheating. Oh the irony. SMH
In a thread about the salary cap.


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What's the percent including the last 6 years? MLB has seen recent success of Pirates, Royals, Rays and A's in the last decade or so. Not necessarily in just championships. There has been some surprising teams in the mix for playoffs, etc. Just judging champions MLB has had 15 teams win a championship since 90. The NFL has seen 14 different teams in that span.
MLB has found another way to win championships. It's because of their farm system, something that the NFL doesn't have. Small market teams such as the Royals have to have strong minor league teams. They develop their stars there, then when they get good and will be coming due for a contract that they can't afford, they trade them away to the big money teams that can afford them in return for their strong minor league prospects. But, as you see over and over in MLB, they have a very small window. The Royals were good for a couple of years, but they lost their talent because they couldn't afford them, and they are right back in the basement with one of the worst records in the league. It will likely be years before they are competitive again.
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The cap should stay. It is needed to keep parity within the NFL.
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