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Old 11-14-2017, 12:21 PM   Topic Starter
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The Atlantic: "Reckoning with Bill Clinton's Sex Crimes"

UH-OH! Liberal publication is now making my point. CP dooshbags, ready to pull out "whataboutism!!!!" on The Atlantic???




Bill Clinton: A Reckoning
Feminists saved the 42nd president of the United States in the 1990s. They were on the wrong side of history; is it finally time to make things right?

Caitlin FlanaganNov 13, 2017





Yet let us not forget the sex crimes of which the younger, stronger Bill Clinton was very credibly accused in the 1990s. Juanita Broaddrick reported that when she was a volunteer on one of his gubernatorial campaigns, she had arranged to meet him in a hotel coffee shop. At the last minute, he had changed the location to her room in the hotel, where she says he very violently raped her. She said that she fought against Clinton throughout a rape that left her bloodied. At a different Arkansas hotel, he caught sight of a minor state employee named Paula Jones, and, Jones said, he sent a couple of state troopers to invite her to his suite, where he exposed his penis to her and told her to kiss it. Kathleen Willey said that she met him in the Oval Office for personal and professional advice and that he groped her, rubbed his erect penis on her, and pushed her hand to his crotch.

It was a pattern of behavior; it included an alleged violent assault; the women involved had far more credible evidence than many of the most notorious accusations that have come to light in the past five weeks. But Clinton was not left to the swift and pitiless justice that today’s accused men have experienced. Rather, he was rescued by a surprising force: machine feminism

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...crimes/545729/
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:29 PM   #2
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I hadn't heard that Bill Clinton is running for office.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:34 PM   #3
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I hadn't heard that Bill Clinton is running for office.
What do you think about her points?
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:53 PM   #4
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What do you think about her points?
I think she makes some good points.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:55 PM   #5
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I think she makes some good points.
Which are....?
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:00 PM   #6
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Which are....?
That the left protected Bill Clinton because he was Bill Clinton. The Savior of the Democratic Party.

I think she has a good point in that.

The stuff about allowing Weinstein to do what he did as long as he was on the left - seems a bit speculative and unsupported to me.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:35 AM   #7
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I hadn't heard that Bill Clinton is running for office.
Yeah, you're right. This 25-years-too-late criticism is kind of weak in terms of virtue. I wonder where she's been and what took her so long? Likewise for everyone else who supported Bill Clinton.
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It's only "whataboutism" if you are using the past misdeeds of someone on the other side as an excuse to ignore the same behavior from your side.

The Atlantic is not doing that. Rather, it's acknowledging that Bill's defenders were in the wrong the entire time in their excusing his behavior and demonizing his accusers.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:32 PM   #9
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It's only "whataboutism" if you are using the past misdeeds of someone on the other side as an excuse to ignore the same behavior from your side.

The Atlantic is not doing that. Rather, it's acknowledging that Bill's defenders were in the wrong the entire time in their excusing his behavior and demonizing his accusers.
I was just going to post this. PB, you still don't know what whataboutism means.

Another giant fail by PB.

/guess I won't vote for that Clinton guy
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:53 PM   #10
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I was just going to post this. PB, you still don't know what whataboutism means.
Just to make sure we all understand, would you explain please? I'm sure PB will be grateful.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:58 PM   #11
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Just to make sure we all understand, would you explain please? I'm sure PB will be grateful.
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Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]

The term "whataboutery" has been used in British English since the period of The Troubles conflict in Northern Ireland.[10][11][12] Lexicographers date the first appearance of the variant whataboutism to the 1990s,[1][10] while other historians state that during the Cold War Western officials referred to the Soviet propaganda strategy by that term.[7][13] The tactic saw a resurgence in post-Soviet Russia, relating to human rights violations committed by, and criticisms of, the Russian government.[7][14][15] The technique received new attention during Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea and military intervention in Ukraine.[16][17] Usage of the tactic extended to Russian President Vladimir Putin and his spokesman, Dmitry Peskov.[18][19][20]
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When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the West.[7][8][9] It represents a case of tu quoque — an appeal to hypocrisy.[5][6][34] The tactic is a type of logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by accusing hypocrisy.[35][36] It functions as a diversionary tactic to distract the opponent from their original criticism.[37][38][39] Thus, the technique is used to avoid directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.[40][41] The tactic is an attempt at moral relativism,[42][43][9] and a form of false moral equivalence.[24][44][45]
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:23 AM   #12
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You do this all the time.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:39 PM   #13
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It's only "whataboutism" if you are using the past misdeeds of someone on the other side as an excuse to ignore the same behavior from your side.

The Atlantic is not doing that. Rather, it's acknowledging that Bill's defenders were in the wrong the entire time in their excusing his behavior and demonizing his accusers.
So they're a day late and a dollar short now that they want their accusations to bear fruit. so transparent.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:41 PM   #14
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It's only "whataboutism" if you are using the past misdeeds of someone on the other side as an excuse to ignore the same behavior from your side.

The Atlantic is not doing that. Rather, it's acknowledging that Bill's defenders were in the wrong the entire time in their excusing his behavior and demonizing his accusers.
Why doesn't it mention Hillary trying to intimidate and silence Bill's rape victims?
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Juanita is a shameless lying skank. What a slut. With a name like Juanita, she's an illegal who shouldn't be in this country.

If she doesn't like being raped, maybe she should deport herself.

This is just another Republican hit piece....just look at the timing...trying to deflect from their child rapist.

Sounds like a CIA smear campaign, honestly. Deep state is at it again.

(Did i cover all my bases?)
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