Football The Fix is in - Page 2

millz · 05-31-2014, 01:34 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTccgZKkouk

eDave · 05-31-2014, 12:57 PM

Marketing wins championships.

cosmo20002 · 05-31-2014, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

(Here we go again!) You should do BOTH...

It's my opinion that controlling the whole game would be impossible; However, it is very possible for the NFL to control a single moment/s of any game they want without any player / coach / team etc. being involved. Sometimes that moment can determine the outcome of a game. A call here, there, especially a NON-CALL here / there can do the trick. The perfect "defense" is human error and non reversible calls. It's all entertainment and can be manipulated. To not accept that as a possibility is beyond being close-minded. It's plain stupid.

I assume the "etc." doesn't include the refs, because you would need one or probably more to pull off what you are describing.

You didn't mention or defend the Touhy guy in the OP's video, but he seems to be the go-to expert on this topic. He says something like, "the refs don't even need to be told by the NFL what to do--they just know." WTF is that?

The easiest way to know Touhy is full of shit is that he always claims that fixing of games by the NFL isn't even illegal, so of course they take advantage of this. It would be very illegal.

redshirt32 · 05-31-2014, 01:41 PM

Is there not holding on every play ?

At some point in the game you can throw your flag and it can determine or alter a games outcome, to say that no ref has taking money or has received some kind of comp to give and edge to another team to give them a better chance to win
or to say that not one game ever has been altered or an edge given to another team knowingly by a ref or refs is stupid.
They are human and they will and can make shitty calls at the right time be it money or friends or the hot ass BJ he received just before the game not every ref has the upmost integrity.

NBA had some shit refs back in the day

Pepe Silvia · 05-31-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I assume the "etc." doesn't include the refs, because you would need one or probably more to pull off what you are describing.

You didn't mention or defend the Touhy guy in the OP's video, but he seems to be the go-to expert on this topic. He says something like, "the refs don't even need to be told by the NFL what to do--they just know." WTF is that?

The easiest way to know Touhy is full of shit is that he always claims that fixing of games by the NFL isn't even illegal, so of course they take advantage of this. It would be very illegal.

No it's not, the NFL has a loophole, it says on the ticket that you're paying to see a football game, it doesn't have to be a FAIR game. It's entertainment, they aren't liable in court.

patteeu · 05-31-2014, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I assume the "etc." doesn't include the refs, because you would need one or probably more to pull off what you are describing.

You didn't mention or defend the Touhy guy in the OP's video, but he seems to be the go-to expert on this topic. He says something like, "the refs don't even need to be told by the NFL what to do--they just know." WTF is that?

The easiest way to know Touhy is full of shit is that he always claims that fixing of games by the NFL isn't even illegal, so of course they take advantage of this. It would be very illegal.

Would it? What law do you have in mind?

millz · 05-31-2014, 03:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsvmcc6tzE0 part 2 right here.

i like tuohy but how did he get access to all these FBI files? Also, I'm sorry but Ritchie looks pissed off and knows something we don't.

Aries Walker · 05-31-2014, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

They brought up the 15 and 1 packers- we know who they lost that one too. One of the best home games in recent years.

That game got me a personal "Way to go" from Rob Riggle.

Dayze · 05-31-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

OK. We know you think that. What evidence do you have?

I don't.
just because I smell dog shit but can't find the turd, doesn't mean the dog shit doesn't exist.

NFL is entertainment. which is one of the reasons my interest has wained to the point where I only watch the Chiefs games any more.

TEX · 05-31-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I assume the "etc." doesn't include the refs, because you would need one or probably more to pull off what you are describing.

You didn't mention or defend the Touhy guy in the OP's video, but he seems to be the go-to expert on this topic. He says something like, "the refs don't even need to be told by the NFL what to do--they just know." WTF is that?

The easiest way to know Touhy is full of shit is that he always claims that fixing of games by the NFL isn't even illegal, so of course they take advantage of this. It would be very illegal.

The problem with your opinion on the subject is that you don't know what you're talking about. However, you think that you do and that's the worst position to be in regardless of the subject matter...Do us all a favor and go educate yourself on the law and then come back and discuss this topic again. You just might learn something...

TEX · 05-31-2014, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

No it's not, the NFL has a loophole, it says on the ticket that you're paying to see a football game, it doesn't have to be a FAIR game. It's entertainment, they aren't liable in court.

Bingo! Hey Cosmo, I'd start (and end) with this...

beach tribe · 05-31-2014, 04:33 PM

And the refs who were just on strike for more money are to be trusted with this multimillion dollar secret?

Lex Luthor · 05-31-2014, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

I don't.
just because I smell dog shit but can't find the turd, doesn't mean the dog shit doesn't exist.

NFL is entertainment. which is one of the reasons my interest has wained to the point where I only watch the Chiefs games any more.

A better analogy: Just because you think the dog must have shit in your yard because you have a feeling that the damn dog must have done so, doesn't mean that a dog shit in your yard.

Find the turd and you'll have a better argument.

Pepe Silvia · 05-31-2014, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

A better analogy: Just because you think the dog must have shit in your yard because you have a feeling that the damn dog must have done so, doesn't mean that a dog shit in your yard.

What?

Mr. Laz · 05-31-2014, 06:12 PM

manipulated,massaged,influenced aren't the same as fixed

I absolutely think that refs subconsciously favor big names in all the sports. I also think that the league wants to give big markets the best chance for success.

Any real conspiracy group would have to be very small or someone would talk, it's just human nature. No way would players,officials keep their mouth shut forever ... they would write a book or blackmail the league endlessly.

cosmo20002 · 05-31-2014, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

No it's not, the NFL has a loophole, it says on the ticket that you're paying to see a football game, it doesn't have to be a FAIR game. It's entertainment, they aren't liable in court.

No it doesn't. That's just ****ing stupid.

But even using your ticket "loophole," a football "game" implies that it is an actual competitive, fair game. If it had a determined outcome, it would be a performance.

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redshirt32 Fire Controlman Vet Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: By the Sea Casino cash: $6174936	Is there not holding on every play ? At some point in the game you can throw your flag and it can determine or alter a games outcome, to say that no ref has taking money or has received some kind of comp to give and edge to another team to give them a better chance to win or to say that not one game ever has been altered or an edge given to another team knowingly by a ref or refs is stupid. They are human and they will and can make shitty calls at the right time be it money or friends or the hot ass BJ he received just before the game not every ref has the upmost integrity. NBA had some shit refs back in the day __________________ "I will rescind every single unconstitutional or illegal executive action from President Obama. " open an investigation into Planned Parenthood” and to prosecute any criminal conduct uncovered." Instruct the Department of Justice and the Internal Revenue Service to “cease persecuting” individuals seeking to practice their faith in their workplace.“End the catastrophic Iranian nuclear deal.” DAY ONE TED CRUZ
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millz Starter Join Date: Dec 2013 Casino cash: $10006205	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsvmcc6tzE0 part 2 right here. i like tuohy but how did he get access to all these FBI files? Also, I'm sorry but Ritchie looks pissed off and knows something we don't.
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05-31-2014, 06:12 PM	#29
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	manipulated,massaged,influenced aren't the same as fixed I absolutely think that refs subconsciously favor big names in all the sports. I also think that the league wants to give big markets the best chance for success. Any real conspiracy group would have to be very small or someone would talk, it's just human nature. No way would players,officials keep their mouth shut forever ... they would write a book or blackmail the league endlessly. __________________
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