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Old 02-13-2019, 11:51 PM  
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-- Hey CP - Where exactly are you with regards to Justin Houston?

I know it's not popular, but; I'm SO cool w/ him not being here next season. Let me start w/ I LOVE Justin, but it's time for an entire agitation (as far as I'm concerned) -- You guys know how much I loved him, from UGA and what not. Fell to us in the draft after a Marijuana case, and he learned from it!

Don't get it twisted - my opinion is ALL BUSINESS. We will NEVER replace JH next year regarding talent - but if we can SORT of 'come close' w/ regards to a replacement, then I'll be cool. I think if those were the cases; we can add another stud w/ just a slight sub par replacement (at that position) and also: (the ability to add another quality positional starter)

I'd like to hear from my people, here.

If this were to happen - we all know JH will be just fine in finding work w/o reducing to sacking groceries at the Winn Dixie.

Thanks all!
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:33 AM   #46
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I've come to expect them to tag him so I've just kinda moved on, atleast with Ford its' just for a season in which he'll likely play his ass off again for a new deal elsewhere.
I'm just not keen on $15M (or more, if they have to tag him as a 4-3 DE) sitting on the bench all year, after what just happened with Berry.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:35 AM   #47
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I'm just not keen on $15M (or more, if they have to tag him as a 4-3 DE) sitting on the bench all year, after what just happened with Berry.
Houston can be moved around. Ford cannot. I would tag ford and trade for a pick, hopefully to draft a MLB or true SAM. Houston can play the weak end/rush end easily.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:41 AM   #48
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Houston can be moved around. Ford cannot. I would tag ford and trade for a pick, hopefully to draft a MLB or true SAM. Houston can play the weak end/rush end easily.
That would be my preference by far. I know people covet sacks but I really just don't like Ford. The injury history screams "let him go somewhere else".
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:42 AM   #49
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I don't think the Chiefs are super high on Ford either...I just don't think that they think they can replace him this year.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:43 AM   #50
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I'm guessing they figure they're gonna be jumping out to leads a lot and teams are going to be throwing it a lot.

They'll wanna keep Ford around to rush the passer.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:45 AM   #51
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That would be my preference by far. I know people covet sacks but I really just don't like Ford. The injury history screams "let him go somewhere else".
Yeah I agree. The injury history and the fact that Houston is just more versatile. If Ford had to reduce down from a 9 to 5 because of some formation shifts.. I just don't know if he can hold it. I also don't know what LB's are available in the draft. SAM needs to be able to at least carry vertical with a TE. I've heard Anthony Barr's name tossed around as a potential FA candidate.. but we will see. Should be fun to see what Spags does.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:51 AM   #52
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I'm guessing they figure they're gonna be jumping out to leads a lot and teams are going to be throwing it a lot.

They'll wanna keep Ford around to rush the passer.
There were games last year, like at Denver, that could have easily been losses if they had just kept running the ball. Ford is a liability in that sense.

It just seems like a terrible gamble for a team that has legit Super Bowl aspirations.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:54 AM   #53
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There were games last year, like at Denver, that could have easily been losses if they had just kept running the ball. Ford is a liability in that sense.

It just seems like a terrible gamble for a team that has legit Super Bowl aspirations.
Sure, but that's every year. There will be games they coulda shoulda woulda lost.

They definitely need to be better vs the run, but i'm guessing they feel the defensive change will help that a lot.

In the end, they're gonna need to get after the opposing QB and Ford is good at that.

I agree with whoever said it here that I don't think they like him that much in that they don't seem to be talking about a long term deal. Tag and let him walk in a year would be my guess.

They also know more about his health than we do, in regards to his back. Maybe it's fixed? I'm skeptical but who knows.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:56 AM   #54
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Sure, but that's every year. There will be games they coulda shoulda woulda lost.

They definitely need to be better vs the run, but i'm guessing they feel the defensive change will help that a lot.

In the end, they're gonna need to get after the opposing QB and Ford is good at that.

I agree with whoever said it here that I don't think they like him that much in that they don't seem to be talking about a long term deal. Tag and let him walk in a year would be my guess.

They also know more about his health than we do, in regards to his back. Maybe it's fixed? I'm skeptical but who knows.
Everybody thought it was fixed in 2011 and he's had 2 back injuries and an additional surgery since then.

Back injuries don't just go away.

I don't have a problem with them tagging him, I just hope they find a trade partner. If they really want him on the team that bad, just freaking sign him and help the cap out this year. Tying up that much cap on Ford, when this team has so many needs, is dumb.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:57 AM   #55
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This draft is full of defensive players so if we could tag and trade Ford for a 1st and trade Houston for a high pick we would have the draft capital to start a complete defensive rebuild. I like our players now but they've had several opportunities to get it done in the playoffs and they haven't so I'm okay with starting the rebuild of the D now.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:59 AM   #56
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It's hard to keep Houston on a $22m cap hit when Vinny Curry and a draft pick could do the job at wide DE for a fraction of that. Speaks and Kpass can cover the 5tech DE. Tag and trade Ford for whatever draft capital you can get.
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Old 02-14-2019, 11:05 AM   #57
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My thoughts on Houston are simple- I like the player but hate his cap hit. I think he is solid against both the run and pass. He has a leadership role on this team and I think the room respects him. In a perfect world he remains a Chief but we lower his cap hit.
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Old 02-14-2019, 11:07 AM   #58
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Old 02-14-2019, 11:08 AM   #59
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It's hard to keep Houston on a $22m cap hit when Vinny Curry and a draft pick could do the job at wide DE for a fraction of that. Speaks and Kpass can cover the 5tech DE. Tag and trade Ford for whatever draft capital you can get.
This is better than Houston.
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Let him go, franchise Ford.
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