Chiefs rabblerouser : I also think that the Chiefs can still win with Alex Smith - Page 3

rabblerouser · 01-17-2017, 09:12 AM

But not with Andy Reid.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't see any reason to rush this. I don't think Alex gives us a great chance at a super bowl. But he gives as an outside chance of one. I would only give him 1-2 years anyway and I'm guessing he does too, judging by his wife's comments. Groom a QB on the bench. There's no reason to rush it but there is a critical urgency to find a clear QBOTF. Not just giving a young QB a shot... finding a guy we believe can start for us for 10 years.

over the past few days I've realized that Alex Smith isn't the problem. it's Andy Reid. I think the Chiefs can definitely win with Alex Smith, win a Super Bowl even.

We'd need a coach like a Gruden/Payton/Harbaugh/Carroll/Garrett/McCarthy type to get the most of Smith and our talented but underachieving offense.

Reerun_KC · 01-17-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Eagles and Rams say hi

49ers and Chiefs say, HI!!!

SuperBowl4 · 01-17-2017, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

For the love of God.....let this happen.

It would end up being better for both teams.

The Jets are going to draft a QB. They aren't going to be able to start him right away.....so throw Alex out there.

We need to draft a QB.....but we really don't need to start him right away. Put Foles out there.

That would be a great move. I like Nick Foles.

KChiefs1 · 01-17-2017, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

a 3rd round pick this year and a conditional 4th or 5th next year depending on how much he plays. KC would then draft a QB this year, and play Nick Foles next year while the new guy learns the system.

That would make the offseason much better.

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Sandy Vagina · 01-17-2017, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

That would make the offseason much better.

It would. Bring it on.

Rasputin · 01-17-2017, 12:39 PM

The problem with Andy Reid is he wants his quarterback to pass 45 times like a gun slinger but Alex Smith is no gun slinger never has been he is best at 25 passing reps with a solid run game to set up the pass.

I really don't get his infatuation with Alex Smith that he thinks he can pass all those downs and then Alex Smith throws sideways more than any quarterback I've ever seen so still doesn't make since what Andy sees in him?

Makes no since and here we are again with ego that Andy Reid ego to stick with Alex Smith is what is going get in the way building a championship team.

gold_and_red · 01-17-2017, 12:42 PM

If they really like a QB they should draft him with their top pick. Use the rest on best available ILB, RB, OLB and OG.
Drafting a 3rd round QB or later sounds like lip service "Hey we are trying can't you see?". It also doesn't create enough pressure on Smith/Foles as a 1st rounder would.
But one thing is sure, if by some miracle Smith is cut/traded and rookie/Foles starts there is no looking back "Wish we had Smith, at least we were winning lot of games". Have to take the early lumps and a possible 2-3 year window of fighting to even make the wildcard.

RobBlake · 01-17-2017, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Yeah the whole Nick Foles is a shit QB is just junk hyperbole narratives brought on by the homers and ball washers of Smith...

Foles can straight up out ball Smith... Besides can it get any worse that what we are already dealing with? No not in the least...

Based on what? A fluke season? Gimmie a break

Eureka · 01-17-2017, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

The team won a lot of games with Smith at QB and got the same playoff results we've seen for over 20 years with the exception of last year.

Perhaps it's time to end the whole other team's QB scraps and draft and develop our own starting QB? We can take our lumps for a season.

Raiders/Carr
Bucs/Winston
Titans/Mariota
Vikings/Bridgewater (kinda)
Colts/Luck
Eagles/Wentz
Cowboys/Prescott

I would argue most of these recently drafted QB's would do well in KC with the players they would have around them. Granted they may not have been able to get some of these players but they didn't try to either. KC has been passing up on quality QB's for years and the trend will probably continue!

The teams above had to take their lumps when drafting a QB and it's about time the Chiefs gave it a shot to develop a great QB instead of having mediocre QB play. Maybe, there's a QB in this years draft they can grab?

Hoover · 01-17-2017, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

And of course throw in one more Donko Manning in 2015 for good measure....

That's it! We need to trade for Joe Flacco.

Hoover · 01-17-2017, 12:52 PM

We can have our cake and eat it too.

Face it, Alex is going to be here next season because of his contract.

Now is the time to draft a QB.

We can win the division and compete for the division.

We are actually in a very good place.

KC_Lee · 01-17-2017, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

We can have our cake and eat it too.

Face it, Alex is going to be here next season because of his contract.

Now is the time to draft a QB.

We can win the division and compete for the division.

We are actually in a very good place.

A good place to do what? Win the division and lose in the first round again?

I've seen this movie, the boat still sinks at the end.

Pennywise · 01-17-2017, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

We can have our cake and eat it too.

Cutler might be available. And it looks like he knows his way around a cake too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPVWlPGgikD/

Hoover · 01-17-2017, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

A good place to do what? Win the division and lose in the first round again?

I've seen this movie, the boat still sinks at the end.

You people are ****ing crazy.

It's a good time to draft and develop a QB. We're not cutting Smith. Get that idea out of your head, but we can begin to look to the future. You don't have to blow up this team to win. Now are we going to the Supre Bowl next year? Probably not as long as Tom Brady and Big Ben are around, but their time is coming to an end.

My only point is that the Chiefs are in a unique situation that doesn't require them to blow everything thing up.

**gblowfish** · 01-17-2017, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pennywise

Cutler might be available. And it looks like he knows his way around a cake too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPVWlPGgikD/

I ****ing HATE Cutler. He's a whiny little bitch and a team cancer wherever he plays. No thanks, I'd rather be Gay for Bray...

**gblowfish** · 01-17-2017, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

I've seen this movie, the boat still sinks at the end.

My all time favorite quick movie review in the Kansas City Star was for Titanic. The plot review simply said "Glub....Glub....Glub...."

01-17-2017, 12:39 PM	#35
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3515421	The problem with Andy Reid is he wants his quarterback to pass 45 times like a gun slinger but Alex Smith is no gun slinger never has been he is best at 25 passing reps with a solid run game to set up the pass. I really don't get his infatuation with Alex Smith that he thinks he can pass all those downs and then Alex Smith throws sideways more than any quarterback I've ever seen so still doesn't make since what Andy sees in him? Makes no since and here we are again with ego that Andy Reid ego to stick with Alex Smith is what is going get in the way building a championship team.
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01-17-2017, 12:42 PM	#36
gold_and_red Veteran Join Date: Nov 2011 Casino cash: $9915412	If they really like a QB they should draft him with their top pick. Use the rest on best available ILB, RB, OLB and OG. Drafting a 3rd round QB or later sounds like lip service "Hey we are trying can't you see?". It also doesn't create enough pressure on Smith/Foles as a 1st rounder would. But one thing is sure, if by some miracle Smith is cut/traded and rookie/Foles starts there is no looking back "Wish we had Smith, at least we were winning lot of games". Have to take the early lumps and a possible 2-3 year window of fighting to even make the wildcard.
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01-17-2017, 12:52 PM	#40
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1708179	We can have our cake and eat it too. Face it, Alex is going to be here next season because of his contract. Now is the time to draft a QB. We can win the division and compete for the division. We are actually in a very good place.
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