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Old 01-28-2013, 09:26 AM  
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Alex Smith to ask for release

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If no draft picks are involved, does that change your opinion on bringing him in?

Draft pick, Smith, Stanzi(?) as your QB's in camp.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:13 AM   #46
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Why I don't think we will take a QB at #1 unless we felt that QB could start day one effectively.
California said to sign him and draft Geno Smith #1 overall.

Alex Smith would have to be a complete moron to do that.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:13 AM   #47
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For those who don't want to make a FA play for Alex Smith, I'd be curious to see who you'd like to bring in for QB depth.

Michael Vick
Matt Hasselbeck
Matt Flynn
Kevin Kolb
Jason Campbell
Bruce Gradkowski
AJ Feeley
Matt Moore

I could see Matt Moore or Jason Campbell, but Alex Smith looks pretty attractive on that list.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:16 AM   #48
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California said to sign him and draft Geno Smith #1 overall.

Alex Smith would have to be a complete moron to do that.
As I already said...

1. There's probably more to it than Smith just not wanting to be a backup. SF experience was embarrassing.
2. He could be a bridge-type one-year starter in KC.
3. The market for starting QB's in terms of FA's isn't that strong.

In addition:
1. Reid's offense could be a nice fit for Smith.
2. Chiefs have the money and cap space to do it.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:16 AM   #49
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I guess that is where I fall in line. I don't see Alex Smith as a steaming pile if sh*t like Matt Cassel. Do I think he is a really good QB? No, but I see him as quality and someone that could help KC for 2-3 years until the drafted QB is completely ready. Much like the same situation Dorsey and Green Bay did with Rodgers.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:17 AM   #50
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Alex Smith does not fit the PASSING QB & offensive role that Andy Reid is looking for. Same boat with Alex Smith as in Matt Cassel 2010. Coach Reid wants to pass the ball not just hand off to the running backs. Alex Smith is a game manager not a game winner.


Do not want not even as a back up, he doesn't want to be a back up. Let young QBs duke it out with one being Geno Smith and a later round QB.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:17 AM   #51
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...Why would he sign with a team who just drafted a QB #1 overall if he wants to start?
Because Free Agency is before the draft?
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:18 AM   #52
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Because Free Agency is before the draft?
Are the Chiefs going to be the first team in history to keep their #1 pick a secret?

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As I already said...

1. There's probably more to it than Smith just not wanting to be a backup. SF experience was embarrassing.
2. He could be a bridge-type one-year starter in KC.
3. The market for starting QB's in terms of FA's isn't that strong.

In addition:
1. Reid's offense could be a nice fit for Smith.
2. Chiefs have the money and cap space to do it.
If you honestly think Alex Smith wants to go from a backup QB collecting Super Bowl rings, to a backup in Kansas City, I offer you this ketchup popsicle and pair of white gloves.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:21 AM   #53
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I guess that is where I fall in line. I don't see Alex Smith as a steaming pile if sh*t like Matt Cassel. Do I think he is a really good QB? No, but I see him as quality and someone that could help KC for 2-3 years until the drafted QB is completely ready.
Why should the draftee QB have to sit for 2-3 years? Last years class has proved a QB does not have to sit and "ride the pine". In this era of NFL football rookie QBs can come out and make a big impact to accellerate a team into turning it around. I'd hate to see #1 draft pick QB sit behind a retread QB that isn't going take us to the promise land.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:22 AM   #54
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Alex Smith does not fit the PASSING QB & offensive role that Andy Reid is looking for. Same boat with Alex Smith as in Matt Cassel 2010. Coach Reid wants to pass the ball not just hand off to the running backs. Alex Smith is a game manager not a game winner.


Do not want not even as a back up, he doesn't want to be a back up. Let young QBs duke it out with one being Geno Smith and a later round QB.
You keep saying that - it doesn't make it any more accurate.

He's not a downfield passer, true. But look at his skill-set and explain to me why he couldn't be an efficient volume passer in a west-coast set. He's accurate, he's smart with the ball and he's mobile. He could easily be a guy that throws the ball 30+ times a game but does so in a manner where he hits his guys in the intermediate areas to create space for them to operate.

No matter what QB he brings in, Reid doesn't have the personnel to run the offense he ran the last couple of years in Philly. He doesn't have the WRs to run it.

What he'll have to do is use a more conventional WCO where he uses the intermediate zones to create space for guys to rack up RAC yards. He'll have to use the short passing game to set up the run and deep passes off double moves.

Smith could do that. You keep saying he shouldn't be a volume passer because he hasn't been asked to be - but what do you see in the actual player that says he can't be?

He has the skills to do the job.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:24 AM   #55
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Are the Chiefs going to be the first team in history to keep their #1 pick a secret?
I'd say there is about a 95% chance of this happening, yes.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:25 AM   #56
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Smith hasn't exactly had some high flying receivers in his career. Crabtree is just now starting to not suck like a diva.


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I'd say there is about a 95% chance of this happening, yes.

I am sure Alex Smith and his Agent will take the Kansas City Chiefs on faith then. lol
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:29 AM   #57
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You keep saying that - it doesn't make it any more accurate.

He's not a downfield passer, true. But look at his skill-set and explain to me why he couldn't be an efficient volume passer in a west-coast set. He's accurate, he's smart with the ball and he's mobile. He could easily be a guy that throws the ball 30+ times a game but does so in a manner where he hits his guys in the intermediate areas to create space for them to operate.

No matter what QB he brings in, Reid doesn't have the personnel to run the offense he ran the last couple of years in Philly. He doesn't have the WRs to run it.

What he'll have to do is use a more conventional WCO where he uses the intermediate zones to create space for guys to rack up RAC yards. He'll have to use the short passing game to set up the run and deep passes off double moves.

Smith could do that. You keep saying he shouldn't be a volume passer because he hasn't been asked to be - but what do you see in the actual player that says he can't be?

He has the skills to do the job.
I have no NO desire to see Alex Smith in a Chief uniform none. Same as it ever was. His age and he is a retread. I don't think he is the kind of QB you would ask to pass the ball 40+ times like Andy Reid is wanting to ask the QB to do. He relies on the run game and playaction. I don't see Alex Smith having the arm strength and have to rely on his arm that many times a game each and every week.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:29 AM   #58
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I am sure Alex Smith and his Agent will take the Kansas City Chiefs on faith then. lol
I'm not saying that. I don't think there is really a situation that stands out where Alex Smith would walk in and not be asked to compete for a starting job though. Let's be realistic about Alex Smith and the kind of QB he is.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:31 AM   #59
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I'm not saying that. I don't think there is really a situation that stands out where Alex Smith would walk in and not be asked to compete for a starting job though. Let's be realistic about Alex Smith and the kind of QB he is.
So if he had to choose between a team not drafting a QB in the first round and horrible QBs currently, and the chiefs who might be taking Geno Smith #1 overall, you think he would go with the Chiefs?

You are delusional lol.
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He'll be looking for a starting job which means if KC brings him in they will not draft a qb in the first 2 rounds.

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