Preemptive late night bullshit: Marcus Cooper is the Chiefs best corner right now.

[Direckshun]

I just got done watching the Titans game all the way through again tonight.

I know the kid's just played two games (one and a half, really), but in those two games, he played tighter coverage, with less of a cushion, and more game-breaking ability than either of our starting corners, Sean Smith and Brandon Flowers.

Coop plays with Flowers' gamebreaking ability. When he reads a route, he gets his head turned around and goes straight for the ball. Sean Smith does not have that kind of aggressiveness.

The fact that Cooper has supplanted Brandon Flowers on the outside is all the evidence we need that the coaching staff agrees. Better to have Flowers chasing the smaller, squiggly guys in the slot.

But Cooper is straight up dominant. QBs keep testing him the past couple games, thinking they can outsmart him. And the commentators even said that Coop has some learning to do.

He doesn't, really. Maybe a trick of the trade here or there, but he is playing picture-perfect coverage on the outside. He is using the sideline, he is breaking for the ball, he's turning his head around, his hips flip as fast as any DB on this team, on par with Flowers.

By the end of the season, we may have a shutdown corner. If we don't have one right now. Seeing how we have Sean Smith for another year, this combination of Flowers-Smith-Cooper will take us places next year, and then we can comfortably let Smith walk the year after and give Cooper a payday.

It might just be the Imperial Java Stout I'm drinking right now (Santa Fe Brewing Company!), but this secondary has me jacked, peeps.

Jacked.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You dig a package with three safeties?

Its been a good package for us this season. We use it more than you think.
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[58-4ever]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Smith on Thomas

Cooper on Decker

Flowers on Welker


I look forward to this

The Smith vs. Thomas one scares me a bit, but that's where you swing Lewis in to cover the long ball.

[58-4ever]

Originally Posted by -King-

Its been a good package for us this season. We use it more than you think.
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Yep, Demps is on the field a lot. It should be interesting. We will probably see more of that with the Donks. Berry covering Thomas, with Lewis and Demps covering the deep stuff.

[oh_snap]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Rutgers.

Mother****er was a Scarlet Knight.

where he played as a receiver. The guy is a beast. I don't think you can say that he is the best CB we have though. Especially since Flowers isn't 100% right now.

I recall vs the Giants, John lynch was one of the commentators and he said he had talked with Al Harris (Former packers DB on the Chiefs coaching staff) and Al was saying how this guy was someone to watch for.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by -King-

Its been a good package for us this season. We use it more than you think.
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I don't know whether they use it more than Saul thinks, but they did start the game against the Giants with a dime package that included 3 safeties (according to profootballreference.com):

Dontari Poe NT
Mike DeVito RDE
Justin Houston LOLB
Derrick O. Johnson RILB
Tamba Hali ROLB
Dunta Robinson LCB
Marcus Cooper CB
Sean Smith RCB
Eric Berry SS
Kendrick Lewis FS
Quintin Demps S

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by -King-

Its been a good package for us this season. We use it more than you think.
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I just feel like we are strong at nearly every position on defense in our base package. Bringing in a third safety removes a better player from the field.

Sometimes it's necessary, but it's not something I get excited to see.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I don't know whether they use it more than Saul thinks, but they did start the game against the Giants with a dime package that included 3 safeties (according to profootballreference.com):

Dontari Poe NT
Mike DeVito RDE
Justin Houston LOLB
Derrick O. Johnson RILB
Tamba Hali ROLB
Dunta Robinson LCB
Marcus Cooper CB
Sean Smith RCB
Eric Berry SS
Kendrick Lewis FS
Quintin Demps S

Our dime looks a lot better with a healthy Flowers, that much is certain.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Our dime looks a lot better with a healthy Flowers, that much is certain.

Yep

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You dig a package with three safeties?

With Berry's versatility? **** yea I do.

It's not 3 safeties it could be an extra safety, CB, or LB in the box for all the offense knows. If used right it could be damn effective.

[mrbiggz]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Smith on Thomas

Cooper on Decker

Flowers on Welker


I look forward to this

Berry on the Julius Thomas and DJ covering knowshawn out of the backfield. I think we win more times than we lose.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

With Berry's versatility? **** yea I do.

It's not 3 safeties it could be an extra safety, CB, or LB in the box for all the offense knows. If used right it could be damn effective.

Three safeties isn't 3 safeties?

[mcaj22]

that looks more like a nickel package than a dime

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Three safeties isn't 3 safeties?

Technically it is 3 safeties. If you can't understand the versatility of Berry and what that does for that package, I'm not sure I can help you.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You dig a package with three safeties?

With any personnel grouping, it depends on the players involved.


With this group, absolutely.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I just feel like we are strong at nearly every position on defense in our base package. Bringing in a third safety removes a better player from the field.

Sometimes it's necessary, but it's not something I get excited to see.

It's a pretty common sub grouping. If we had another ILB who could cover as well as DJ, it'd be interesting to see how that would change. However, that personnel grouping can create matchup problems, (specifically with backs based on teams protection principles) especially with overloads and FZ concepts.