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*** Official Youth, High School, College and International Wrestling Thread ***

I can't be the only wrestling fan on this site. In fact, I know I that's not the case. The almighty king of n00bs, Sorter, is a wrestling fan. I figure there could be more.....????

Discuss anything wrestling related:

Youth wrestling: Heck, wrestling in Iowa has a rabid Youth wrestling scene...I lived through it, my younger brother lived through it and my brothers who are 15 and 13 are living through it, well the 13 year old is anyway...he's in high school. The 13 year old is a 7th grader who has been wrestling since he was 5 years old and has accumulated 4 state championships since his second grade year...a total badass. Believe it or not, Iowa has a youth wrestling forum that is hopping...even during the summer. Iowans take this stuff seriously. I'm assuming other states have rabid youth followings, for when I watch my bros at National tourneys, we are constantly running into kids and super clubs from other states that are amazing. Ironically, one of the biggest youth tourneys our club hits annually is the Park Hill Individual and Dual tournament...which to my knowledge is in Kansas City (I've never attended that one). Do any of you have kids who are wrestling? If so, how are they doing?

High School Wrestling: High school and college wrestling in Iowa is big... we are known for it, ask AC Slater. State tournament is a big, televised event at the Wells Fargo dome...you will see probably 10 times more spectators at state wrestling in Iowa then any other high school sporting event in Iowa. With some of the crazy talent I have seen/wrestled against at Fargo Nationals, I am assuming that it's either on the rise or just as big in other states as well... What are your thoughts on some of the high school wrestlers and/or teams out there?

College Wrestling: Hell, you Missourians semi-recently had those Askren brothers. I've never met Max, but have met Ben. He was the celebrity guest at Iowa Grade School State one year...he signed autographs and handed the medals and wall charts to all of the kids on the podium that year, which was cool because my youngest brother won it that year and was able to get his championship singlet signed by him. I was with my brother when he approached him....Askren struck me as a funny, goofy type of dude. I don't know Max, but someone posted his blog on an Iowa wrestling message board and the dude seems like a character. I know there are some Oklahomans' who post on this board. Anyone see Okie State defeat Iowa this past weekend? Iowa's first dual loss of the year. Anyone have any thoughts on college wrestling?

International Wrestling: Any of you have any thoughts on the international wrestling scene? Future Olympians, future Olympic champs, future World champs, Greco, Freestyle, etc.?

Wrestling Memories/General Discussion: Any of you have any memories you'd like to share from your personal experience(s) of wrestling when you were in youth, high school or college? Any opinions on females wrestling with males. Last year, a girl named Megan Black made history in Iowa by placing at state. Do you believe females should be able to wrestle with males at that age? Any thoughts on weight cutting? What are some of the most memorable matches to you? Who are your favorite wrestlers? One match that always sticks out to me is this:



Crazy match.

My favorite wrestler (besides my bros and former teammates) of all time is ironically not an Iowan. I don't really have a favorite team in wrestling...I root for individuals. It's a dude from Ohio that I initially hated because I didn't like the way he conducted himself after a match vs. my brother in the national duals when he and my brother were Seniors in High School, in which he defeated my brother. Kid was cocky. He and my brother both went on to wrestle D1, so I followed him since I knew who he was. I ended up becoming a huge fan of the kid's style...the kid could hit cradles from ANY position. He went on to win 2 National titles for Ohio State...and did so both years as an underdog, for he'd lose quite a few silly matches during the season, presumably due to his risky, but dangerous style that worked well for him at NCAA Nationals. It's a dude named Jeff Jaggers. First vid is what really put his name on the map as a high school wrestler. 2nd vid is his 1st NCAA championship as a Junior, in a match where he was a huge underdog, broke his ankle during the match and gutted it out and won. My favorite wrestlers tend to be the ones who are risk takers or brawlers...not afraid to be aggressive or take chances. I can't stand stallish wrestlers who are successful as hell simply because they don't open up and therefore don't give up points and score their own points by capitalizing on the other wrestler's aggression. Boring.






So what ya got?

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My wrestler won 1st in Novice and 3rd in Open today.

Highlights:
Wrestled a really, really good kid who has a lot of stuff. He bridged for like 20 seconds twice to avoid the pin. Still got beat on points, but my son has always been really really shitty at defending a pin, so I was so stoked to see that.

Wrestled a kid who, a month ago, pinned him in the second round (it was a weird pin, as my son was leading him on points and generally whipping his ass and suddenly the ref slapped the mat). Anyway, my son pinned him 8 seconds in today. It was freaking awesome.

Anything that goes around my boy's neck is his kryptonite. Headlocks or reverse halfs or anything like that has made him panic and basically give up a pin in the past. Today, he got headlocked with constricted breathing for 30 seconds to end the first. He fought it off, came up crying, got his shit together then threw a headlock on the other kid and pinned him in the second. It was freaking awesome to see him bounce back from, what in the past, would have beat him.
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My wrestler won 1st in Novice and 3rd in Open today.

Highlights:
Wrestled a really, really good kid who has a lot of stuff. He bridged for like 20 seconds twice to avoid the pin. Still got beat on points, but my son has always been really really shitty at defending a pin, so I was so stoked to see that.

Wrestled a kid who, a month ago, pinned him in the second round (it was a weird pin, as my son was leading him on points and generally whipping his ass and suddenly the ref slapped the mat). Anyway, my son pinned him 8 seconds in today. It was freaking awesome.

Anything that goes around my boy's neck is his kryptonite. Headlocks or reverse halfs or anything like that has made him panic and basically give up a pin in the past. Today, he got headlocked with constricted breathing for 30 seconds to end the first. He fought it off, came up crying, got his shit together then threw a headlock on the other kid and pinned him in the second. It was freaking awesome to see him bounce back from, what in the past, would have beat him.
That is awesome. Congrats!
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Old 01-02-2016, 10:11 PM   #378
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Went up and wrestled a good tourney in Missouri today.

Drew a rough first match against the kid who would win the bracket.

Won 3 in a row after that with some tough fought battles.

Got pinned in second round of final match after leading the whole match. My wrestler has gotten pretty strong. The good part of that is that he's overpowering kids. The bad part of that is that his technique has gotten sloppy. If he'd been executing his moves properly in his final, he would have beat the kid in the 1st round, but his poor technique caught him.

Anyway, he ended up 4th in a tournament where he'd likely DNP'd in the past. Pretty happy with his progress this season, but I'm ready to get him into some camps and really start seeing him drill and work technique properly.
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We ran a dual tournament today, and it was a ton of fun. Took 200 kids from like 15 clubs in the area, divided them up between 10 random teams. Tried to match weight/skill fairly closely, but kids were basically on teams with a bunch of kids they didn't know.

Best tournament ever! Seeing all these kids that might have sort of known each other before but haven't actually bonded, now being on a team together and bonding and talking and wrestling with each other was so much fun. They all run into each other at tournaments, but don't really talk because kids stick to their teams. This tournament allowed them to actually get to know each other and form that community.

We were talking and were thinking how cool that a lot of these kids (the younger ones especially) are going to be running into each other and spending a lot of time together over the next 10 years.

Oh, and my boy went 4-2 today. His wrestling is coming along. He's had a surprisingly good season. He'll probably end up 2nd or 3rd in state at the tournament in a couple of weeks.
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I've been helping coach the youth group this year, we've had up to 50 boys(and girls) in the room....which is great considering how low wrestling numbers are in HS across the state.

As a group they've been doing pretty well at tournaments. I've taken my 5 year old to a handful. I've harped all along that winning isn't the most important thing and that all he has to do to make me proud is try hard and do his best.

The first tournament was a little rough as later in the year a lot of these boys have had a lot of matches...and in that one there were teams of boys from a few states away, including Kansas boys. He came really close to winning one but fell short. I was really proud of how hard he tried, never stopped or gave up. Wrestling technique can be learned....heart cannot. The thing that surprised me the most was how much he hates losing. Hated it.

Second tournament was much better...wasn't nervous if the activity and crowd and understood things better and went out like a little beast. It was so fun to see and a friend caught a video when he came off the mat...he was so proud. You saw the light switch to on. Beat an older boy in the 2nd and lost in the champ round by making a mistake with 8 seconds to go. I was really really proud of the effort, he said "I hate 2nd, it sucks ..." And didn't want his metal.

3rd tournament was a mix of wins and an ass whooping by a talented little boy.

I'm baffled by the kid because in practice he isn't really competitive...he definitely acts 5, but he is so much more aggressive and competitive in matches. I'm glad he hates losing and it makes him want to do more.....but I'm trying to figure out how to harness it.....I'm more interested in him having fun, working hard, learning one new thing each week....and act right after matches. We tach all of our boys to win/lose with class...if you try hard, hold your head up......and not only shake your opponents hand after but also his dad/coach.

Anyway....I think we're about done for the season and I'm keeping him out of the Aau state qualifiers. He's not ready and I want to stop for the year before it's not fun......we might go to some of the freestyle practices after high school state for fun and mat time.

Anyway..... Wrestling is awesome....and this is how you drive through a double leg!
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I've been helping coach the youth group this year, we've had up to 50 boys(and girls) in the room....which is great considering how low wrestling numbers are in HS across the state.

As a group they've been doing pretty well at tournaments. I've taken my 5 year old to a handful. I've harped all along that winning isn't the most important thing and that all he has to do to make me proud is try hard and do his best.

The first tournament was a little rough as later in the year a lot of these boys have had a lot of matches...and in that one there were teams of boys from a few states away, including Kansas boys. He came really close to winning one but fell short. I was really proud of how hard he tried, never stopped or gave up. Wrestling technique can be learned....heart cannot. The thing that surprised me the most was how much he hates losing. Hated it.

Second tournament was much better...wasn't nervous if the activity and crowd and understood things better and went out like a little beast. It was so fun to see and a friend caught a video when he came off the mat...he was so proud. You saw the light switch to on. Beat an older boy in the 2nd and lost in the champ round by making a mistake with 8 seconds to go. I was really really proud of the effort, he said "I hate 2nd, it sucks ..." And didn't want his metal.

3rd tournament was a mix of wins and an ass whooping by a talented little boy.

I'm baffled by the kid because in practice he isn't really competitive...he definitely acts 5, but he is so much more aggressive and competitive in matches. I'm glad he hates losing and it makes him want to do more.....but I'm trying to figure out how to harness it.....I'm more interested in him having fun, working hard, learning one new thing each week....and act right after matches. We tach all of our boys to win/lose with class...if you try hard, hold your head up......and not only shake your opponents hand after but also his dad/coach.

Anyway....I think we're about done for the season and I'm keeping him out of the Aau state qualifiers. He's not ready and I want to stop for the year before it's not fun......we might go to some of the freestyle practices after high school state for fun and mat time.

Anyway..... Wrestling is awesome....and this is how you drive through a double leg!
So awesome!

I'm loving the progression of my kid, and I'm really ready to see what he can do with some small group clinics this offseason when he's working on some very specific skills.

He's still not as driven toward improvement as he needs to be, but I'm seeing that attitude develop quite a bit. He's starting to step up as a leader on the team as well, keeping the other kids in line and encouraging others during conditioning.
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You guys are a bunch of shitty midwesterners. You're supposed to actually be INTO wrestling, unlike me, who is a southerner.
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Out of curiosity, what are some good forums about wrestling out there?

I'm not really interested in keeping up with college wrestling and such, but I'd like a forum just about the sport of wrestling. Training tips, different move series, things of that nature.

Kolat wrestling has some amazing video tutorials, but I'd like other just sort of "wrestling primer" sites that tell you, "here's what you need to have your kid doing at this age/skill level." And things like different strategies and ways to teach strategy.

One of the main problems my kid is facing currently is: learning to sense what your opponent is trying to do and fight it off before they can actually do it. So if a kid is starting to try to run a chicken wing on him, he doesn't necessarily realize it until his opponent already has the move in. So like, ways to teach kids to think strategically, stuff like that is what I'm looking for.
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I've been helping coach the youth group this year, we've had up to 50 boys(and girls) in the room....which is great considering how low wrestling numbers are in HS across the state.

As a group they've been doing pretty well at tournaments. I've taken my 5 year old to a handful. I've harped all along that winning isn't the most important thing and that all he has to do to make me proud is try hard and do his best.

The first tournament was a little rough as later in the year a lot of these boys have had a lot of matches...and in that one there were teams of boys from a few states away, including Kansas boys. He came really close to winning one but fell short. I was really proud of how hard he tried, never stopped or gave up. Wrestling technique can be learned....heart cannot. The thing that surprised me the most was how much he hates losing. Hated it.

Second tournament was much better...wasn't nervous if the activity and crowd and understood things better and went out like a little beast. It was so fun to see and a friend caught a video when he came off the mat...he was so proud. You saw the light switch to on. Beat an older boy in the 2nd and lost in the champ round by making a mistake with 8 seconds to go. I was really really proud of the effort, he said "I hate 2nd, it sucks ..." And didn't want his metal.

3rd tournament was a mix of wins and an ass whooping by a talented little boy.

I'm baffled by the kid because in practice he isn't really competitive...he definitely acts 5, but he is so much more aggressive and competitive in matches. I'm glad he hates losing and it makes him want to do more.....but I'm trying to figure out how to harness it.....I'm more interested in him having fun, working hard, learning one new thing each week....and act right after matches. We tach all of our boys to win/lose with class...if you try hard, hold your head up......and not only shake your opponents hand after but also his dad/coach.

Anyway....I think we're about done for the season and I'm keeping him out of the Aau state qualifiers. He's not ready and I want to stop for the year before it's not fun......we might go to some of the freestyle practices after high school state for fun and mat time.

Anyway..... Wrestling is awesome....and this is how you drive through a double leg!
Awesome to hear that you are helping out with the youth program. Strong youth programs are the foundation of strong high school programs. Always begins in the youth scene.

Cool to hear that your boy is doing well and is competitive.
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Out of curiosity, what are some good forums about wrestling out there?

I'm not really interested in keeping up with college wrestling and such, but I'd like a forum just about the sport of wrestling. Training tips, different move series, things of that nature.

Kolat wrestling has some amazing video tutorials, but I'd like other just sort of "wrestling primer" sites that tell you, "here's what you need to have your kid doing at this age/skill level." And things like different strategies and ways to teach strategy.

One of the main problems my kid is facing currently is: learning to sense what your opponent is trying to do and fight it off before they can actually do it. So if a kid is starting to try to run a chicken wing on him, he doesn't necessarily realize it until his opponent already has the move in. So like, ways to teach kids to think strategically, stuff like that is what I'm looking for.
Kolat is my absolute favorite. My two youngest bros (Senior and Sophomore) love watching his training vids. I would love to take them to a Kolat camp.

The board I am on 20+ times per day is thepredicament.com, but that is for Iowa youth and HS. themat.com has an active forum....was pretty active as of a few years ago...It's been a while since I have ventured there.
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So my Sophomore brother at 138 has been on an absolute tear lately and I am real excited about that. He pinned a real tough kid from Washington in the finals at Sectionals yesterday (if the kid would have gotten off his back, he would have ended up with a 21-6 tech fall), so he is on to districts and it is looking as if it should be him and the Washington kid will be the ones to advance to state.

Things are pretty dang dramatic for the Senior brother at 132 pounds. The #2 ranked kid from 126 (and runner-up from last season) unexpectedly bumped up to 132 in the other Sectional we face. Not sure why he did this, but if he would have stayed at 126, he would have had Brock Rathbun...the 2 time state champ that my Sophomore brother had that crazy semifinal match with at state last year (I posted the youtube vid to that match a few months ago...the commentary from Gable and Ironside made that match very entertaining as well as the match itself). I mean, so if he would have lost to Rathbun, at least he would have been on the opposite side of the bracket as him at state.

Anyways... My brother is ranked #3 at 132. He beat the #8 ranked kid from Washington (a kid who placed 8th last year and the year before) 6-4 in OT yesterday... He has ALWAYS struggled with that kid. The kid has such strong hips and uses them well. He has a deadly neck wrench-trip. He is the type of kid that you can be up 14-0 against with 20 seconds left and still feel uneasy. Anyways, that kid will have the #2 ranked 126 lb guy first round at districts... A good kid will not qualify at that weight...and I hope that's not my brother.
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:15 PM   #388
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My friends boy is slowly getting better. Will be a freshman next year at Staley. Just needs to have the switch turn on and he will be a champion. Keeps getting 2nd and 3rds. Traveled to texas and one other states national tournaments. Won one total, so he sees what he needs to learn.

His only block right now is mental.
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