2015 Fantasy Discussion - Page 7

Urc Burry · 07-29-2015, 09:25 PM

Drafts coming up in a couple weeks, and I haven't seen a thread yet.

Was wanting to get some input overrated players/sleepers/strategies etc.

I've been going back and forth on what I want to do with my 2nd rounder. I've done a few mocks, and I really want to take Luck in the 2nd.. but I just can't seem to get as good of a team that route.

Also for the later 1st round who do you take out of CJ Anderson, Jeremy Hill, and Demarco Murray? To me its between Murray and CJ.. Leaning towards Murray. I don't think there will be a huge dropoff for him this year like everyone else seems to think

Not a huge sleeper, but I've been taking Jordan Matthews in just about every mock. I think he is going to have a HUGE year and he will be great value. Even Agholor should be a good late pick. Also Martavis Bryant. I think they finally found the guy to take some pressure off of Antonio Brown. Lastly I like Ameer Abdullah.. he should be a great fit in that offense, and I saw that Bell is going to start the season on the PUP

**Old Dog** · 09-01-2015, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

Drafted in a 12-person league, standard format.
RB/WR flex position.

I got the lowest grade for my Draft: C-.

Did I really screw the pooch?

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Where did you pick and what were your first six or seven rounds?

Methinks he picked around 10ish in the first round and the first six picks were McCoy, Miller, Hopkins, Maclin, Brees, Bennett

I think it's a middle of the pack team. It's not likely one of the best, but certainly not one of the worst. With a touch of luck you can make the playoffs and then who the heck knows what can happed.

**Old Dog** · 09-01-2015, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

On a side note where should maclin be drafted, I'm down to him and Brandon Marshall.

His current ADP is 5.10 in 12 team leagues. Marshall is 5.02. I like Maclin a touch better, but that's where they're both being drafted right now.

**Rausch** · 09-01-2015, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog

His current ADP is 5.10 in 12 team leagues. Marshall is 5.02. I like Maclin a touch better, but that's where they're both being drafted right now.

I think Maclin gets more targets.

Reid often gets too pass heavy and that was without having one of his favorite guys on roster. There's also a much better situation at QB in KC...

TambaBerry · 09-01-2015, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

In a draft only thing how's my team looking so far?

Latavius Murray
Carlos Hyde
Calvin Johnson
Odell Beckham

I picked 10th

Just added maclin and agholor

sedated · 09-01-2015, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

Drafted in a 12-person league, standard format.
RB/WR flex position.

I got the lowest grade for my Draft: C-.

Did I really screw the pooch?

Obviously its always a toss-up so who knows, but I can’t even figure out who you took where. Was it 1) McCoy, 2) Miller, 3) Brees?

MMXcalibur · 09-01-2015, 10:23 PM

Yes, I drafted 10th overall. Snake draft.

1) McCoy
2) Miller
3) Brees
4) Maclin
5) Hopkins
6) Bennett
7) Cruz
8) Blount
9) Colston
10) Jackson
11) Chiefs
12) Flacco
13) Bailey
14) Fleener

**ChiefGator** · 09-02-2015, 03:09 AM

Okay, so here is my general analysis, pick-by-pick, of your first 11 picks.

1) McCoy - I don't love him, and I'm not sure he just bounces back to 2013 form. But, with Jackson leaving, the path opened up for him to get more carries. Not a bad value although it seems a little high for him.

2) Miller - I rode this hype train last year, so to quote George W, "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." This is about the right spot for him to be drafted though.

3) Brees - I'm okay with this, and you know your league. It seems a bit high for QB, and I consider the 3-6 ranked QBs to be all pretty similar. But, okay.

4) Maclin - Seems a bit high.. maybe a bit of a homer pick?

But, I think he will exceed general expectations.

5) Hopkins - Love this pick here though. Great value.

6) Bennett - No one gets excited about Bennett, but this is the right spot for him and he will produce. Sexiness of pick - 0, Functionality of pick - 8.

7) Cruz - Would have rather seen a bigger upside play, like Charles Johnson, Eddie Royal. Just to take a swing at the fences.

8) Blount - Fair pick here, but is the clear backup. I would have preferred another swing at the fences with someone like Martin, Gurley, Vereen, Bell. I have even seen Foster fall this far.

9) Colston - Again, he is likely not really the starter and is a bit boom-and-bust at 32.

10) Jackson - I liked this pick here, before he got cut of course.

11) Chiefs - Homer pick..

I took Chiefs last round in my 14-person, 15-round draft.

So, in general, I don't think it deserves a C- grade, but I would take more chances in the later rounds. And, I think you had a few homer picks.

Keep your eyes on the waiver wire, as there should be lots there for you with the short bench and only 12 persons.

If you want to post some of the RBs and WRs available on the wire, maybe there are some good ones you would want to grab right now?

Discuss Thrower · 09-02-2015, 10:08 AM

I was drunk:

QB: Rodgers, Newton, Palmer
RB: Morris, Tevin Coleman, Cameron Artis-Payne
WR: Sanders, Watkins, Decker, Moncrief, Stills, Janis, Tavon Austin
TE: Graham, Kelce, ASJ
D/ST: Miami
K: Crosby
HC: Miami

TambaBerry · 09-02-2015, 10:50 AM

I need some serious help at rb here. Remember I can't pick up or drop any players.

Big Ben
Megatron
Odell Beckham
Maclin
Agholor
Hyde
Latavius Murray

I need more rb help and that's all that's left.

Ceej · 09-02-2015, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I was drunk:

QB: Rodgers, Newton, Palmer
RB: Morris, Tevin Coleman, Cameron Artis-Payne
WR: Sanders, Watkins, Decker, Moncrief, Stills, Janis, Tavon Austin
TE: Graham, Kelce, ASJ
D/ST: Miami
K: Crosby
HC: Miami

Your draft would agree.

**ChiefGator** · 09-02-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I was drunk:

QB: Rodgers, Newton, Palmer
RB: Morris, Tevin Coleman, Cameron Artis-Payne
WR: Sanders, Watkins, Decker, Moncrief, Stills, Janis, Tavon Austin
TE: Graham, Kelce, ASJ
D/ST: Miami
K: Crosby
HC: Miami

Graham and Kelce, and then the dumpster fire behind Alfred Morris at RB? You were drunk man. Try to move a QB or TE to upgrade a RB or WR.

**ChiefGator** · 09-02-2015, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

I need some serious help at rb here. Remember I can't pick up or drop any players.

Big Ben
Megatron
Odell Beckham
Maclin
Agholor
Hyde
Latavius Murray

I need more rb help and that's all that's left.

That is non-ppr I assume?

I would look at Tre Mason and Matt Jones.

If it was PPR, I think alot of those remaining RBs would already have been swooped up.

I still would look at Darren Sproles, and I haven't really looked at Reggie Bush enough to have an educated decision I guess.

Again.. boom or bust players.

**The Franchise** · 09-02-2015, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

I need some serious help at rb here. Remember I can't pick up or drop any players.

Big Ben
Megatron
Odell Beckham
Maclin
Agholor
Hyde
Latavius Murray

I need more rb help and that's all that's left.

Duke

Discuss Thrower · 09-02-2015, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Graham and Kelce, and then the dumpster fire behind Alfred Morris at RB? You were drunk man. Try to move a QB or TE to upgrade a RB or WR.

Keep ****ing doubting CAP.

...

But yeah. I came to the same conclusion Monday morning when I saw what Drunkuss Thrower did.

**ChiefGator** · 09-02-2015, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Keep ****ing doubting CAP.

...

But yeah. I came to the same conclusion Monday morning when I saw what Drunkuss Thrower did.

I am pretty damn drunk by the last third of my drafts too and often have a "what the ..." moment in the morning.. definitely been there.

I actually don't DOUBT Cameron Artis-Payne. I wrote his name down and did some research on him as well after watching a couple of the Panther's preseason games. He looks good.

I like him and I like the home run (or foul) swing for your RB4 or RB5. It's amazing how many people choose RB's like Bernard Pierce, Fozzy Whitaker, or Daniel Thomas in those late rounds. We know their ceiling already. Especially true of many late taken WR's. Take a swing on a total chance at zero or breakthrough. Not like you will be starting the RB4, RB5, WR4, or WR5 anytime soon.

07-29-2015, 09:25 PM
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9041048	2015 Fantasy Discussion Drafts coming up in a couple weeks, and I haven't seen a thread yet. Was wanting to get some input overrated players/sleepers/strategies etc. I've been going back and forth on what I want to do with my 2nd rounder. I've done a few mocks, and I really want to take Luck in the 2nd.. but I just can't seem to get as good of a team that route. Also for the later 1st round who do you take out of CJ Anderson, Jeremy Hill, and Demarco Murray? To me its between Murray and CJ.. Leaning towards Murray. I don't think there will be a huge dropoff for him this year like everyone else seems to think Not a huge sleeper, but I've been taking Jordan Matthews in just about every mock. I think he is going to have a HUGE year and he will be great value. Even Agholor should be a good late pick. Also Martavis Bryant. I think they finally found the guy to take some pressure off of Antonio Brown. Lastly I like Ameer Abdullah.. he should be a great fit in that offense, and I saw that Bell is going to start the season on the PUP
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09-01-2015, 10:23 PM	#96
MMXcalibur Pessimistically optimistic. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $2475086	Yes, I drafted 10th overall. Snake draft. 1) McCoy 2) Miller 3) Brees 4) Maclin 5) Hopkins 6) Bennett 7) Cruz 8) Blount 9) Colston 10) Jackson 11) Chiefs 12) Flacco 13) Bailey 14) Fleener
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09-02-2015, 03:09 AM	#97
ChiefGator Can these boys not play? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Northcentral Florida Casino cash: $7762956	Okay, so here is my general analysis, pick-by-pick, of your first 11 picks. 1) McCoy - I don't love him, and I'm not sure he just bounces back to 2013 form. But, with Jackson leaving, the path opened up for him to get more carries. Not a bad value although it seems a little high for him. 2) Miller - I rode this hype train last year, so to quote George W, "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." This is about the right spot for him to be drafted though. 3) Brees - I'm okay with this, and you know your league. It seems a bit high for QB, and I consider the 3-6 ranked QBs to be all pretty similar. But, okay. 4) Maclin - Seems a bit high.. maybe a bit of a homer pick? But, I think he will exceed general expectations. 5) Hopkins - Love this pick here though. Great value. 6) Bennett - No one gets excited about Bennett, but this is the right spot for him and he will produce. Sexiness of pick - 0, Functionality of pick - 8. 7) Cruz - Would have rather seen a bigger upside play, like Charles Johnson, Eddie Royal. Just to take a swing at the fences. 8) Blount - Fair pick here, but is the clear backup. I would have preferred another swing at the fences with someone like Martin, Gurley, Vereen, Bell. I have even seen Foster fall this far. 9) Colston - Again, he is likely not really the starter and is a bit boom-and-bust at 32. 10) Jackson - I liked this pick here, before he got cut of course. 11) Chiefs - Homer pick.. I took Chiefs last round in my 14-person, 15-round draft. So, in general, I don't think it deserves a C- grade, but I would take more chances in the later rounds. And, I think you had a few homer picks. Keep your eyes on the waiver wire, as there should be lots there for you with the short bench and only 12 persons. If you want to post some of the RBs and WRs available on the wire, maybe there are some good ones you would want to grab right now? __________________ - Mark
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09-02-2015, 10:08 AM	#98
Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $3256869	I was drunk: QB: Rodgers, Newton, Palmer RB: Morris, Tevin Coleman, Cameron Artis-Payne WR: Sanders, Watkins, Decker, Moncrief, Stills, Janis, Tavon Austin TE: Graham, Kelce, ASJ D/ST: Miami K: Crosby HC: Miami __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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09-02-2015, 10:50 AM	#99
TambaBerry MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $1705541	I need some serious help at rb here. Remember I can't pick up or drop any players. Big Ben Megatron Odell Beckham Maclin Agholor Hyde Latavius Murray I need more rb help and that's all that's left. Attached Thumbnails
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