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Old 11-07-2016, 08:38 AM  
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Should we take Foles' $10 mill option this offseason?
So we've got him here. He appears to be a good backup. But his contract seems to indicate that Dorsey wanted to take a stab to see if he's better than Alex.

Is he worth it?
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:16 AM   #16
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Also we have to consider Smiths health...

Theres a chance after 2 concussions already this year that if he gets hit again.... Will he come back or hang them up?


I say alot of it depends on Smiths nugget and future hits this year...
Mama won't let him play and he will hang them up at the end of the year.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:17 AM   #17
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:18 AM   #18
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NFL films "Nick Foles misses wide-open Tyreek Hill in end zone."

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Hell NO.
I don't love Alex Smith by any means, but he makes that throw 100% of the time.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:35 AM   #19
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I don't mind Foles on the roster, but nowhere near 10m. I have read about how great he would be here, but a lot was lost in translation. He is good for what he is, Alex Smiths backup.



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Old 11-07-2016, 09:42 AM   #20
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Not at 10 million unless we have a deal in hand to flip him for a decent draft pick. I'd see like to see him play some more but the early returns aren't great. It just shows Alex is the system QB he is. He and Foles are interchangeable.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:48 AM   #21
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I just don't think it makes a lot of financial sense to pick up the option. If Foles is a backup then making $10 mil is ridiculous. If he's the starter then Alex Smith is the backup for $17 mil or he's cut and the Chiefs get a $7 mil cap hit on top of Foles' $10 mil salary.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:21 AM   #22
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I think the Chiefs waive him, then re-sign him to a reasonable contract for a backup, say in the $4 million dollar range.

He's still fairly young and could learn more in KC from Reid and his staff than if he went elsewhere, in which he'd likely flamed out again.

IMO, it should be about his long term viability in the league and not money but I suppose that if some team offered him $7-8 million per (which is total speculation and completely undeserved), he'd take the money and run.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:23 AM   #23
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I think the Chiefs waive him, then re-sign him to a reasonable contract for a backup, say in the $4 million dollar range.

He's still fairly young and could learn more in KC from Reid and his staff than if he went elsewhere, in which he'd likely flamed out again.

IMO, it should be about his long term viability in the league and not money but I suppose that if some team offered him $7-8 million per (which is total speculation and completely undeserved), he'd take the money and run.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:25 AM   #24
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NFL films "Nick Foles misses wide-open Tyreek Hill in end zone."

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...to-Tyreek-Hill


Hell NO.
Yeah, that was pretty awful.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:28 AM   #25
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I think the Chiefs waive him, then re-sign him to a reasonable contract for a backup, say in the $4 million dollar range.

He's still fairly young and could learn more in KC from Reid and his staff than if he went elsewhere, in which he'd likely flamed out again.

IMO, it should be about his long term viability in the league and not money but I suppose that if some team offered him $7-8 million per (which is total speculation and completely undeserved), he'd take the money and run.
Exactly. Foles is not worth 10 mil but if he will take a backup's salary then it might be worth it for Andy to turn him into a solid QB.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:31 AM   #26
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Also we have to consider Smiths health...

Theres a chance after 2 concussions already this year that if he gets hit again.... Will he come back or hang them up?


I say alot of it depends on Smiths nugget and future hits this year...
Smith didn't sustain a concussion...let alone two. They rested him as a precaution.

And no to $10 million for Foles...I think he take much less to stay with Reid and slowly rebuild his career.
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The equation doesn't only include Alex Smith.

Is Tyler Bray 10m better than Tyler Bray?

I mean I'm not a huge Tyler Bray fan, but one thing I can say with certainty is he has the best deep ball of any Chiefs QB I've seen in person and I've been going to camp for almost 20 years.

With the raw speed we have at the skill positions, that's a huge factor.

If Hill, Wilson, Maclin, Conley, Thomas, West, etc get a step on their man, Bray has shown the ability to put those deeper passes right on the money and all of those guys have world class speed that defenders can't match. Especially with all the speed from everyone, there's a speed mismatch on every play.
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The equation doesn't only include Alex Smith.

Is Tyler Bray 10m better than Tyler Bray?

I mean I'm not a huge Tyler Bray fan, but one thing I can say with certainty is he has the best deep ball of any Chiefs QB I've seen in person and I've been going to camp for almost 20 years.

With the raw speed we have at the skill positions, that's a huge factor.

If Hill, Wilson, Maclin, Conley, Thomas, West, etc get a step on their man, Bray has shown the ability to put those deeper passes right on the money and all of those guys have world class speed that defenders can't match. Especially with all the speed from everyone, there's a speed mismatch on every play.
In theory this might be true, In reality this isnt a deep ball offense, no matter who you put back there, the statistical results are the same and the regular season wins will continue to stack up.

So no Bray doesnt offer anything different than Foles or Smith offers. IF Bray was the QB he would run the plays as Andy calls them and he will go through his check down/bubble screen progressions as he is supposed to.
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