Football Johnny Manziel’s Father Hopes Son Goes to Jail. Calls him a "druggie" - Page 6

**Dave Lane** · 07:07 PM

Johnny Manziel’s family has had enough of the NFL free agent quarterback’s ever-growing list of trouble. The former Cleveland Browns quarterback was back in the news this week after he was involved in another hit-and-run accident. And to make matters worse for him, his lawyer, Bob Hinton, accidentally sent a damaging text to The Associated Press. The text, which in part said “Heaven help us if one of the conditions is to pee in a bottle,” also mentioned a potential plea deal in Manziel’s domestic violence case and that the QB spent more than $1,000 on drug paraphernalia shortly after the hit-and-run.

Manziel’s father, Paul, was quite candid about the situation when ESPN’s Josina Anderson asked him Friday for a comment. “He’s a druggie. It’s not a secret that he’s a druggie,” Paul Manziel said in a phone interview Friday. “I don’t know what to say other than my son is a druggie and he needs help. He just hasn’t (sought) it yet. Hopefully he doesn’t die before he comes to his senses. That’s about all you can say. I don’t know what else to say. … “I had him in rehab and he escaped and the doctors let him go, and that is a whole other story. So I mean I had him (in rehab) and the system failed. It didn’t work. “He has more money than me, so he can outrun me. Like I said, there are two things that are going to happen: He’s either going to die, or he’s going to figure out that he needs help. It’s one of the two. But we’ve done everything that we can do. Life goes on. You can’t just chase somebody that’s not willing to listen. The story is not going to change. It’s the same. … “I mean, I hate to say it, but I hope he goes to jail. I mean, that would be the best place for him.”

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eDave · 06-26-2016, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well acquainted with what? Narcissism?

Man, 99.99% of the people I know that work in the entertainment business, whether it's behind the camera, in front of it, admin, lawyers, accountants and so on are normal, everyday people with jobs and families.

The only drug use I've ever seen in 23 years is marijuana, which is legal with a medical card.

The idea that everyone is an over-the-top, narcissistic, drugged out, unapproachable asshole is a fallacy.

Is this true? I can't get my head around that.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-26-2016, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave

Is this true? I can't get my head around that.

Complete truth.

eDave · 06-26-2016, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Complete truth.

Huh. I always thought you've been to some parties and have seen some shit.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-26-2016, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave

Huh. I always thought you've been to some parties and have seen some shit.

Oh, I've been to tons of parties and hung with plenty "famous" people but I've never been around serious drug use.

Hell, I was at a party last night with several "celebs" in attendance and it was just booze and pot.

**Mr. Kotter** · 06-26-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well acquainted with what? Narcissism?

Man, 99.99% of the people I know that work in the entertainment business, whether it's behind the camera, in front of it, admin, lawyers, accountants and so on are normal, everyday people with jobs and families.

The only drug use I've ever seen in 23 years is marijuana, which is legal with a medical card.

The idea that everyone is an over-the-top, narcissistic, drugged out, unapproachable asshole is a fallacy.

No one said, "everyone".....but 1 in 10,000... or less? Seriously?

Check out this list or about 800 or so....with celebrity over-representation being pretty evident...not to mention the wanna-be and fringe types...who aren't "notable" but industry involved

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...related_deaths

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-26-2016, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

No one said, "everyone".....but 1 in 10,000... or less? Seriously?

Check out this list or about 800 or so....with celebrity over-representation being pretty evident...not to mention the wanna-be and fringe types...who aren't "notable" but industry involved

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...related_deaths

That list has way too many alcohol-related deaths to count, along with a fair share of accidental prescription overdoses.

That said, I never stated that drug abusers don't exist. I stated that I've never seen in it live and in person, regardless of the amount of fame or power has been involved.

It's really difficult to maintain a job, mortgage and family if you're constantly whacked on cocaine and heroin.

Deberg_1990 · 06-26-2016, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Oh, I've been to tons of parties and hung with plenty "famous" people but I've never been around serious drug use.

Hell, I was at a party last night with several "celebs" in attendance and it was just booze and pot.

You disappoint me Dane....

No Charlie Sheen parties ever?

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-26-2016, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

You disappoint me Dane....

No Charlie Sheen parties ever?

Charlie Sheen? No. His co-workers and associates? Yes.

Regardless, I'm not going into detail about my voluminous adventures over the years.

I'll keep all that stuff on the double secret PM list.

**SAUTO** · 06-26-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I never addressed the money situation between Johnny and his parents. I find it irrelevant.

You don't think there are parents who think there kid would be better off in prison than continuing down the path of drug addiction? If my son grows up, becomes a drug addict, and has shunned all of my efforts to help him, I would much rather he be picked up by the police and thrown in jail than to continue to throw his life away abusing drugs.

Johnny isn't just using drugs recreationally and still living a productive life. Drugs are ruining his life and he has wasted more opportunities than most people receive in a lifetime.

Drugs are easy to get in jail, VERY easy.

**LoneWolf** · 06-26-2016, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Drugs are easy to get in jail, VERY easy.

I've never been. I'll take your word for it.

**SAUTO** · 06-26-2016, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I've never been. I'll take your word for it.

I've never been to prison. Had many friends that have though and they did exactly inside what they did outside. There were no issues especially when people would put money on their books.

**LoneWolf** · 06-26-2016, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're fooling yourself thinking that drug use doesn't occur in prisons. Condemning him to prison because he needs treatment is absolutely the wrong path to take. Plus, once he's spent time in prison, there's absolutely no reason to be leave that he'd be reformed after a sentence. That's silly.

If he wants to "throw away his life" by partying, that's his decision. But the fact remains that if he were to get help and re-dedicate himself to football, he'd make insane money once again.

All the quibbling about what is the right way for his father to handle this situation aside, I doubt that Manziel ever gets another shot in the NFL. He never had the prototypical QB talent to begin with. There isn't a team in the league willing to take the chance on a fringe talent with his immense personal issues.

**SAUTO** · 06-26-2016, 06:16 PM

Longest I've been in jail was 7 days, ironically it was when my dad was going on vacation and had me out on bond. So he didn't have to worry about what crazy shit I would do while he was gone he just pulled my bond and sent me back. Then bonded me out when he got back.

I thought he was such an asshole.

**LoneWolf** · 06-26-2016, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I've never been to prison. Had many friends that have though and they did exactly inside what they did outside. There were no issues especially when people would put money on their books.

Looks like my privileged upbringing and naïveté are shining through.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-26-2016, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

All the quibbling about what is the right way for his father to handle this situation aside, I doubt that Manziel ever gets another shot in the NFL. He never had the prototypical QB talent to begin with. There isn't a team in the league willing to take the chance on a fringe talent with his immense personal issues.

QB's are always at a premium. Look at Mike Vick for an example.

Manziel's barely 23 years old. If he decides to get clean and wants to play football again, I have no doubt that he'll get that opportunity, regardless of whether that's in 2017 or 2020.

06-25-2016, 05:22 PM
Dave Lane Space Cadet and Aczabel Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kanab, UT, USA Casino cash: $9333275 VARSITY	Johnny Manziel’s Father Hopes Son Goes to Jail. Calls him a "druggie" Johnny Manziel’s family has had enough of the NFL free agent quarterback’s ever-growing list of trouble. The former Cleveland Browns quarterback was back in the news this week after he was involved in another hit-and-run accident. And to make matters worse for him, his lawyer, Bob Hinton, accidentally sent a damaging text to The Associated Press. The text, which in part said “Heaven help us if one of the conditions is to pee in a bottle,” also mentioned a potential plea deal in Manziel’s domestic violence case and that the QB spent more than $1,000 on drug paraphernalia shortly after the hit-and-run. Manziel’s father, Paul, was quite candid about the situation when ESPN’s Josina Anderson asked him Friday for a comment. “He’s a druggie. It’s not a secret that he’s a druggie,” Paul Manziel said in a phone interview Friday. “I don’t know what to say other than my son is a druggie and he needs help. He just hasn’t (sought) it yet. Hopefully he doesn’t die before he comes to his senses. That’s about all you can say. I don’t know what else to say. … “I had him in rehab and he escaped and the doctors let him go, and that is a whole other story. So I mean I had him (in rehab) and the system failed. It didn’t work. “He has more money than me, so he can outrun me. Like I said, there are two things that are going to happen: He’s either going to die, or he’s going to figure out that he needs help. It’s one of the two. But we’ve done everything that we can do. Life goes on. You can’t just chase somebody that’s not willing to listen. The story is not going to change. It’s the same. … “I mean, I hate to say it, but I hope he goes to jail. I mean, that would be the best place for him.” Read more at: http://nesn.com/2016/06/johnny-manzi...tm_campaign=im Last edited by Dave Lane; 06-25-2016 at 07:07 PM..
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