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Old 01-07-2017, 01:20 PM  
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Rank Our Needs

Far as I can tell, these are our needs, major and minor.

Change then, adjust them, and/or rank them as you see fit.

QBotF
RB depth
WR depth
#2 TE
OT depth
OG depth
NT depth
OLB depth
starting WILB
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:38 PM   #2
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:50 PM   #3
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RB needs moved up IMO

The Ware/West duo isnt dynamic enough for my tastes
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:52 PM   #4
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1. ILB - No DJ and not much to write home about otherwise. Mauga could be retained for 1 more year however.

2. QB - It's highly unlikely the Chiefs can/will retain Foles at his 2017 price tag and there is not a clear heir to Alex.

3. S/NT - I'm reserving this slot in the event either Berry or Poe is not retained. Also, Sorensen is an RFA so we'll see if he is also retained.

4. OLB - Tamba Hali is all but done, and I see him retiring. The Chiefs need to replace their #3 pass rusher, and we've all seen how important that has been the past 2 seasons.

5. OT - I can't fathom Jah Reid being retained, so KC will need a backup tackle. If Reid is retained, the Chiefs need a backup tackle.

6. WR - The Chiefs will have to add a guy here as depth I think. I doubt they retain Wilson for 1.7 mil.

7. RB - The Chiefs probably won't retain Jamaal Charles at his current price, nor should they at anything near it. If that's the case, I bet they are shopping for a 3rd running back.

8. OG - The Chiefs should draft someone to push for a starting job, but if not they should at least bring in someone to push Fulton for the backup job.

9. CB - Before Terrance Mitchell started playing well, I would have ranked this #1. Mitchell locking down the outside has also improved Steven Nelson by moving him to the slot. The Chiefs have a good looking stable in the current alignment, but could use another developmental long corner.


I do not view TE as a need, but if they take advantage of the class being strong then they need to look for a stronger blocker at the #2.
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:59 PM   #5
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You're completely comfortable rolling into 2017 with Mitchell as the #2 CB, kccrow?

I probably don't have to remind you why you should be more reticent.
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Old 01-07-2017, 02:11 PM   #6
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1) ILB
2) CB
3) OG
4) WR
5) S
6) RB
7) OLB
8) QBotF
9) DE
10)NT

I can easily make an argument for these positions to be changed, but as of this second that is how I feel.
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Old 01-07-2017, 02:39 PM   #7
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You're completely comfortable rolling into 2017 with Mitchell as the #2 CB, kccrow?

I probably don't have to remind you why you should be more reticent.
Absolutely. Mitchell is playing lights out defense. He's playing better ball than I saw Smith play when he was here. Some guys just need to end up in the correct scheme to match their style, and I feel like the Chiefs have done that for Mitchell.

Add in that D.J. White has had this season to mature and learn his placements plus will have a full offseason, yeah I'm comfortable.

If you use your theory of being reticent, then we should never draft another QB in round 1 in the history of the franchise. We should never draft another DT from LSU. The list goes on. I'm not scared of past failures.
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Old 01-07-2017, 02:42 PM   #8
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Absolutely. Mitchell is playing lights out defense. He's playing better ball than I saw Smith play when he was here. Some guys just need to end up in the correct scheme to match their style, and I feel like the Chiefs have done that for Mitchell.

Add in that D.J. White has had this season to mature and learn his placements plus will have a full offseason, yeah I'm comfortable.

If you use your theory of being reticent, then we should never draft another QB in round 1 in the history of the franchise. We should never draft another DT from LSU. The list goes on. I'm not scared of past failures.
I'm just saying.

It's wise to get health insurance if you've been hit by a car before.

We were smacked in the face by Cooper's failure in 2014. People forget Cooper was arguably playing better at the end of 2013 than Mitchell is now.
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Old 01-07-2017, 03:02 PM   #9
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I'm just saying.

It's wise to get health insurance if you've been hit by a car before.

We were smacked in the face by Cooper's failure in 2014. People forget Cooper was arguably playing better at the end of 2013 than Mitchell is now.
Considering 3 players started games this year before him, I think we're good.

Gaines getting healthy and being a reserve is probably good for him, but still solid insurance. Nelson playing the slot has improved his play, but still insurance. White developing and learning the defense more thoroughly will help him with the out of position issues he was having and he still played decent ball in spurts as a rookie. And to top it off, Mitchell isn't a rookie that you're banking on not having a sophomore slump. The guy has been in the league a few years now. I plan to take Awuzie out of my next mock and I don't think I'll put a CB in it. Murray could play CB if need be as well. So can Parker. I'm not sure how many guys you need at the position to be happy. Mitchell is playing good ball. There are guys there that can step in and be solid players. I'm not worried about what Marcus Cooper did or didn't do. And, btw, Marcus Cooper has had a really solid season in Arizona. Change of scheme can do wonders for players.
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Old 01-07-2017, 04:28 PM   #10
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1) ILB
2) CB
3) OG
4) WR
5) S
6) RB
7) OLB
8) QBotF
9) DE
10)NT

I can easily make an argument for these positions to be changed, but as of this second that is how I feel.
Swap QBotf with WR, and I'm solid with this list.
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:40 AM   #11
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1. ILB - No DJ and not much to write home about otherwise. Mauga could be retained for 1 more year however.

2. QB - It's highly unlikely the Chiefs can/will retain Foles at his 2017 price tag and there is not a clear heir to Alex.

3. S/NT - I'm reserving this slot in the event either Berry or Poe is not retained. Also, Sorensen is an RFA so we'll see if he is also retained.

4. OLB - Tamba Hali is all but done, and I see him retiring. The Chiefs need to replace their #3 pass rusher, and we've all seen how important that has been the past 2 seasons.

5. OT - I can't fathom Jah Reid being retained, so KC will need a backup tackle. If Reid is retained, the Chiefs need a backup tackle.

6. WR - The Chiefs will have to add a guy here as depth I think. I doubt they retain Wilson for 1.7 mil.

7. RB - The Chiefs probably won't retain Jamaal Charles at his current price, nor should they at anything near it. If that's the case, I bet they are shopping for a 3rd running back.

8. OG - The Chiefs should draft someone to push for a starting job, but if not they should at least bring in someone to push Fulton for the backup job.

9. CB - Before Terrance Mitchell started playing well, I would have ranked this #1. Mitchell locking down the outside has also improved Steven Nelson by moving him to the slot. The Chiefs have a good looking stable in the current alignment, but could use another developmental long corner.


I do not view TE as a need, but if they take advantage of the class being strong then they need to look for a stronger blocker at the #2.
I like this list. Only change I would make would be to push RB higher up on the list.
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This draft is strong with pass rushers and CBs. Don't draft for need just stock the D.
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Old 01-09-2017, 07:54 AM   #13
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I think we will find a way to keep Poe and Berry.

1. ILB - I think DJ is done and the others are mediocre
2. OLB (Depth) - Tamba will retire and Houston gets hurt all the time
3. WR - Wilson will be a FA and Conley isn't a starter
4. OT (Depth) - If Fisher goes down we are screwed
5. QBOTF - Foles only wants to play for Reid. We value him and will keep him like Daniel.
6. CB (Depth) - I like our corners but am not completely sold on them
7. OG (Depth) - It would be bad if we lost a center or guard right now
8. TE (Depth) - I like Harris as Kelce's back up but he's a shitty #2. Blocking is sketchy.
9. S (Depth) - Murray has disappointed

Note: If Reid really likes a QB that is there early, Dorsey should draft him. However, I can see Foles being the starter a year or two after Smith is gone. Also, d-line is set. Howard or Jones can play NT if Poe goes down.

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Old 01-09-2017, 08:00 AM   #14
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This draft is strong with pass rushers and CBs. Don't draft for need just stock the D.
I agree with this 100%.

Having a strong stable of pass rushers and CB's is what made Denver's defense so good and we need to add to it like they did.

The Chiefs only had 28 sacks this season. Yeah Ford exploded, but the history here says that we'll endure an injury there, hopefully not serious. We have zero depth there at all with Dadi's injury and Tamba's age.

I'm all in for CB, OLB and ILB early if a QB is not there.
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