It's time we ban pitbulls

[Richard_Cuckold]

Enough is enough. These dogs are way too strong & unpredictable. Plus, they are normally owned by the wrong people. Deadly combo right there.

This latest pitbull attack is absolutely heartbreaking.

A 14-month-old Wisconsin boy has died after a brutal attack by a pair of pit bulls, authorities said on Thursday.
Police received a call from Susan Iwicki, 30, on Wednesday saying that she and the young boy were being attacked by the dogs, according to local NBC affiliate WMTV. Iwicki told police that she and the boy had each sustained injuries.

The boy died of his injuries at a Milwaukee area hospital later on Wednesday, the Walworth County sheriff’s office said, according to The Associated Press.
The boy had the “biggest eyes, great smile,” family friend Valerie Brylow told local affiliate WTMJ. “He was a great little boy.”
“He is adorable, absolutely adorable,” Nicole Jennison, another family friend told the station.
The boy’s name has not been released, and an investigation continues. Both of the pit bulls were removed from the property and euthanized on Wednesday, WMTV reported.
The fatal dog attack was the first in Wisconsin in a decade, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...lling-him?lite

[J Diddy]

I disagree. I think we need to round up all the pitbulls and let them loose in congress.

[nstygma]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Pit Bulls make up 3.3% of the dog population. Between 60% and 70% of dog bite fatalities are caused by Pit Bulls. The statistics speak for themselves.

the report says 48%, not 60 or 70
the report does not state that pit bulls make up 3.3% of the population, but that 3.3% of the dogs for sale in June 2011 in online or newspaper ads were pit bulls,

also, the reports blames an average of 11 deaths per year on pit bulls.
and its conclusion:

For the same reason, it is sheer foolishness to encourage people to regard pit bull
terriers and Rottweilers as just dogs like any other, no matter how much they may
behave like other dogs under ordinary circumstances.Temperament is not the issue, nor is it even relevant. What is relevant is
actuarial risk. If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but
will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a
pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--
and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their
victims are paying the price.
Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be handled with
special precautions, but also must be regulated with special requirements appropriate to
the risk they may pose to the public and other animals, if they are to be kept at all

[nstygma]

****ing poodles!!

Poodle: Very strange 2002 case involved prescription drug use possibly affecting dog as well as victim.
A pit bull attack on a 3-year-old on December 2, 2011 in Seymour, Tennessee also involved two poodles
who apparently joined in

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by KC native

There are several problems with the source.

First, press reports are rarely ever corrected if they are small blurbs which most dog attacks are.

Second, there is a huge selection bias. Media hypes and disproportionately reports on attacks by pitbulls or pitbull type dogs.

Cling to psuedo-science if you want, but that study is in no way accurate due to being solely based on news reports. If it was news reports crossed with police reports and other verification it would be robust. It's not.

Fair enough. I've looked at a few different sources, and the ones I've looked at were fairly consistent. But perhaps I've been looking only at sources that are biased against pit bulls. I'd be happy to look at any sources that reach a different statistical conclusion if you're aware of any.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Statistic:

100% of all pitt bulls that drank antifreeze died.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by nstygma

the report says 48%, not 60 or 70
the report does not state that pit bulls make up 3.3% of the population, but that 3.3% of the dogs for sale in June 2011 in online or newspaper ads were pit bulls,

also, the reports blames an average of 11 deaths per year on pit bulls.
and its conclusion:

Different sources yield somewhat different statistics, but the ones I've found did nothing to change the basic message: Pit bulls make up a relatively small percentage of the dog population, yet an overwhelmingly large percentage of dog-bite related deaths and/or dog-bite related attacks are caused by pit bulls.

For example:

2011 statistics

• 31 U.S. fatal dog attacks occurred in 2011. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 600 U.S. cities, pit bulls led these attacks accounting for 71%. Pit bulls make up less than 5% of the total U.S. dog population.
• Notably in 2011, adult victims of fatal pit bull attacks more than doubled the number of child victims. Of the 22 total pit bull victims, 68% (15) fell between the ages of 32 to 76, and 32% (7) were ages 5 years and younger.
• The year 2011 also marks an increase in pet pit bulls killing their owners. Of the 8 total instances this year in which a family dog inflicted fatal injury to its primary caretaker, the dog's owner, 88% (7) involved pet pit bulls.
• Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (4), the number two lethal dog breed, accounted for 84% of all fatal attacks in 2011. In the 7-year period from 2005 to 2011, this same combination accounted for 74% (157) of the total recorded deaths (213).
• The breakdown between pit bulls and rottweilers is substantial over this 7-year period. From 2005 to 2011, pit bulls killed 128 Americans, about one citizen every 20 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 29; about one citizen every 88 days.

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-sta...ities-2011.php

The above statistics came from a web site called dogsbite.org, so I can understand the argument that the very name of the web site suggests a certain amount of bias. However, the Centers for Disease Control could hardly be called a biased site. This is what the CDC concluded based upon a 20 year study:

Attacks by pit bulls accounted for about a third of the 238 fatal dog attacks in the United States during a 20-year study, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Pit bulls were blamed for killing 76 people, or 32 percent, during a study of dog attacks from 1979-1998, the study showed. Rottweilers were the second most deadly animal, reportedly killing 44 people, or 18.5 percent, during the same period.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/P...dy-2660139.php

And of course, the table shown below (which I've already posted in this thread) came from Wikipedia.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States


All of these sites support the same basic message: Pit bulls make up a relatively small percentage of the dog population, yet an overwhelmingly large percentage of dog-bite related deaths are caused by pit bulls.

Feel free to post your own links to studies that contradict this basic message. However, if your source is bull911.com and your article is this one, you should probably acknowledge that it states plainly on the front page of the web site that it's a pit bull advocacy site. It dismisses the CDC study with a simple assertion that's not backed up by anything other than the opinion of the owner of the web site.

This might be a good time for me to mention that I've never owned a pit bull, never been attacked by one, nor do I personally know anyone who has been attacked. I don't have an agenda or a pre-conceived bias here. I've just been watching the news reports for years, and based upon that I've drawn my own conclusion. The statistics speak for themselves.

[jimw51]

Band pit bull owners not the breed

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

yeah ! Band them !

[Bob Dole]

Pit bulls were blamed for killing 76 people, or 32 percent, during a study of dog attacks from 1979-1998, the study showed.

Lets find everything that killed an average of 4 people per year over the last 19 years and ban all of those thing. Immediately. Electricity, motor vehicles of all types, water, etc. should all be GONE!

Then we will all live forever in peace and harmony.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by jimw51

Band pit bull owners not the breed

You should post more. You're really good at this.

[King_Chief_Fan]

ban the banners

let me have my gun....I see a pit bull coming....I blast him

or ban pit bulls teeth

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Lets find everything that killed an average of 4 people per year over the last 19 years and ban all of those thing. Immediately. Electricity, motor vehicles of all types, water, etc. should all be GONE!

Then we will all live forever in peace and harmony.

The numbers I've been seeing are more on the order of 20 to 25 deaths per year, which is roughly a death every couple of weeks, but your point is still valid given a population of hundreds of millions of people.

I guess the difference in my mind is that pit bulls probably don't provide quite as much benefit to society as electricity, motor vehicles, and water. Therefore it would pretty easy to eliminate virtually all of these deaths with no real cost to society. Perhaps Bob Dole sees that differently.

And by the way, Bob Dole always speaks in the third person. Who are you, and what have you done with Bob Dole?

[Frankie]

I don't think statistics lie. Pitbulls ARE an easily agitated breed it seems. And I also agree that some owners are careless about owning them and some are better at it.

That said, there are countless other breeds of dogs for dog lovers to own. Pitbulls are not even that nice looking? I'm not saying kill pitbulls off. But why can't we just phase them out?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

The numbers I've been seeing are more on the order of 20 to 25 deaths per year, which is roughly a death every couple of weeks, but your point is still valid given a population of hundreds of millions of people.

I guess the difference in my mind is that pit bulls probably don't provide quite as much benefit to society as electricity, motor vehicles, and water. Therefore it would pretty easy to eliminate virtually all of these deaths with no real cost to society. Perhaps Bob Dole sees that differently.

And by the way, Bob Dole always speaks in the third person. Who are you, and what have you done with Bob Dole?

Giving a benefit to society is not a requirement of existence or acceptance for any creature.

[ClevelandBronco]

I'm okay with not banning pit bulls as long as they don't ban the gun I'm going to use to kill any pit bull that turns up in my neighborhood.