Misc Sinaloa cartel chief 'Chapo' Guzman arrested - Page 3

**Donger** · 02-22-2014, 01:20 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/22/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

(CNN) -- Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, the boss of one of Mexico's most powerful drug trafficking operations, was arrested in Mexico, a U.S. official told CNN Saturday.

The official said Guzman, accompanied by a female, was captured in a joint operation with Mexican marines and Drug Enforcement Administration authorities overnight at a hotel in the beach resort of Mazatlán.

The operation had been in the works for four or five weeks, the official said.

Phil Jordan, who spent three decades with the DEA and headed the agency's El Paso Intelligence Center, said the arrest represents a huge blow to the world's most powerful drug boss.

"It is a significant arrest provided he gets extradited immediately to the United States," Jordan told CNN. "If he does not get extradited, then he will be allowed to escape within a period of time.

"When you arrest the most powerful man in the Americas and, in Mexico, if you talk to any cartel member they'll say that he's more powerful than Mexican President Pena Nieto. This would be a significant blow to the overall operations not only in the Americas, but Chapo Guzman had expanded to Europe. He was all over the place. If he is, in fact, incarcerated, until he gets extradited to the United States, it will be business as usual."

In Washington a senior administration official described the arrest as "huge" and said it was "a Mexican-led operation, but one with very strong U.S. government support."

"This has been a long time coming, and hopefully puts a rest to the nonsense that this Mexican government isn't focusing on security and that the U.S. and Mexico aren't working well together," the official told CNN. "They are, and we do."

Guzman, who authorities say has eluded capture for years, is wanted in the United States on multiple federal drug trafficking charges and last year was named a Public Enemy No. 1 by the Chicago Crime Commission.

His nickname, which means "Shorty," matches his 5-foot-6 frame.

Guzman escaped from a high-security Mexican prison in 2001 and avoided being caught because of his enormous power to bribe corrupt local, state and federal Mexican officials.

Guzman has been included in Forbes' World's Most Powerful People list since 2009.

Guzman has been named in multiple federal drug trafficking indictments in the United States and has been on the Drug Enforcement Administration's most-wanted list. His drug enterprise stretches throughout North America and reaches as far away as Europe and Australia.

The Sinaloa cartel has been blamed for its role in the bloody drug war that has plagued Mexico in recent years.

**Donger** · 02-22-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

If he's replaced, what was accomplish?

His arrest doesn't stop drugs from entering the country.

His arrest was accomplish.

And you go after the next guy. And the next guy. And the next guy.

Dayze · 02-22-2014, 06:24 PM

I love this place.

Discuss Thrower · 02-22-2014, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

That was my first thought. I would imagine that a leadership void would be left unfilled. Surely he had a lieutenant (or however you say that in Mexican).

A) Spanish. Spanish is the official language of Mexico.
B) Teniente

**Donger** · 02-22-2014, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

A) Spanish. Spanish is the official language of Mexico.
B) Teniente

Right, thanks. Spanish.

**kysirsoze** · 02-22-2014, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

I believe I already answered that.

Do you think he will go away for life without making any plea agreements? Do you think no strong intel can be gleaned from a drug lord this powerful?

**SAUTO** · 02-22-2014, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Do you think he will go away for life without making any plea agreements? Do you think no strong intel can be gleaned from a drug lord this powerful?

I think he will probably either get away or get killed prior to getting here.

or the cartel was done with him and threw him to the wolves in which case he will probably kill himself at some point.

**kysirsoze** · 02-22-2014, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I think he will probably either get away or get killed prior to getting here.

or the cartel was done with him and threw him to the wolves in which case he will probably kill himself at some point.

Well we can speculate all day, I just think the arrest has more value than simply removing him from his duties as a drug runner. As far as him making it to the US, sounds like a crap shoot for sure. Still, if there's a possibility it is a good use of resources.

**SAUTO** · 02-22-2014, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Well we can speculate all day, I just think the arrest has more value than simply removing him from his duties as a drug runner. As far as him making it to the US, sounds like a crap shoot for sure. Still, if there's a possibility it is a good use of resources.

lol he hasn't ran drugs in years.

he's telling people what to do, that's not changing as long as hes in mexico, probably not even IF he ever makes it here

**kysirsoze** · 02-22-2014, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

lol he hasn't ran drugs in years.

he's telling people what to do, that's not changing as long as hes in mexico, probably not even IF he ever makes it here

OK. I didn't literally mean he was transporting the drugs. Drug Kingpins are referred to casually as dealers all the time even though they aren't out there distributing.

I agree he needs to be brought to the US. Who's to say what he will be capable of from here? I suppose I don't know what the federal prison system has in place to prevent communication.

LiveSteam · 02-22-2014, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

If I were you guys I'd be stocking up on pot before it all dries up.

Mexican sh-wag is like the Obamacare of pot. Nobody with a clue,wants it

dmahurin · 02-22-2014, 07:49 PM

I'm honestly surprised this guy was even arrested. We've (CIA/DEA) been in bed with this guy for years.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-u...-cartel-2014-1

listopencil · 02-22-2014, 07:53 PM

Huh. I partied in Mazatlan once upon a time. Just booze though.

**Anyong Bluth** · 02-22-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

lol he hasn't ran drugs in years.

he's telling people what to do, that's not changing as long as hes in mexico, probably not even IF he ever makes it here

Why do I picture him, this tiny tiny guy, actually running his drugs door to door sporting wristbands and headband, perspiring like all hell and vaguely resembling an older and slightly less attractive Gael Garcia Bernal, with that weird condition that some people have where they're super skinny as can be except for a pronounced potbelly.

**Anyong Bluth** · 02-22-2014, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Huh. I partied in Mazatlan once upon a time. Just booze though.

Mazatlan just sounds like it should some sort of desert hypnotic / hallucinogen.

...or it's just me (shrug)

GloryDayz · 02-22-2014, 09:04 PM

Well blow that mother****er's brains out! Should have never arrested him, should have just shot him in his useless ****ing head 39 times.. 38 isn't enough, put that 39th in him!

02-22-2014, 01:20 PM
Donger "Think BOOM!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W Casino cash: $10469900 VARSITY	Sinaloa cartel chief 'Chapo' Guzman arrested http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/22/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1 (CNN) -- Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, the boss of one of Mexico's most powerful drug trafficking operations, was arrested in Mexico, a U.S. official told CNN Saturday. The official said Guzman, accompanied by a female, was captured in a joint operation with Mexican marines and Drug Enforcement Administration authorities overnight at a hotel in the beach resort of Mazatlán. The operation had been in the works for four or five weeks, the official said. Phil Jordan, who spent three decades with the DEA and headed the agency's El Paso Intelligence Center, said the arrest represents a huge blow to the world's most powerful drug boss. "It is a significant arrest provided he gets extradited immediately to the United States," Jordan told CNN. "If he does not get extradited, then he will be allowed to escape within a period of time. "When you arrest the most powerful man in the Americas and, in Mexico, if you talk to any cartel member they'll say that he's more powerful than Mexican President Pena Nieto. This would be a significant blow to the overall operations not only in the Americas, but Chapo Guzman had expanded to Europe. He was all over the place. If he is, in fact, incarcerated, until he gets extradited to the United States, it will be business as usual." In Washington a senior administration official described the arrest as "huge" and said it was "a Mexican-led operation, but one with very strong U.S. government support." "This has been a long time coming, and hopefully puts a rest to the nonsense that this Mexican government isn't focusing on security and that the U.S. and Mexico aren't working well together," the official told CNN. "They are, and we do." Guzman, who authorities say has eluded capture for years, is wanted in the United States on multiple federal drug trafficking charges and last year was named a Public Enemy No. 1 by the Chicago Crime Commission. His nickname, which means "Shorty," matches his 5-foot-6 frame. Guzman escaped from a high-security Mexican prison in 2001 and avoided being caught because of his enormous power to bribe corrupt local, state and federal Mexican officials. Guzman has been included in Forbes' World's Most Powerful People list since 2009. Guzman has been named in multiple federal drug trafficking indictments in the United States and has been on the Drug Enforcement Administration's most-wanted list. His drug enterprise stretches throughout North America and reaches as far away as Europe and Australia. The Sinaloa cartel has been blamed for its role in the bloody drug war that has plagued Mexico in recent years.
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GloryDayz (Sir/Yes Sir/Aye Aye Sir) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diving Casino cash: $3645380	Well blow that mother**er's brains out! Should have never arrested him, should have just shot him in his useless **ing head 39 times.. 38 isn't enough, put that 39th in him!
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